tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067300766668479829.post372212312348751357..comments2023-05-08T18:50:33.283+05:30Comments on Malankara Orthodox TV: "The Murder of Orthodoxy in Malankara" by George Alexander.Malankara Orthodox TVhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09209160347100828786noreply@blogger.comBlogger85125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067300766668479829.post-29536408879206077112012-01-10T10:32:15.942+05:302012-01-10T10:32:15.942+05:30@MSO
you are misquoting my comments by saying H.H....@MSO<br />you are misquoting my comments by saying H.H.Peter III consecrated 6 new bishops as rebels in Malankara!What I had said was that H.H. Peter III never consulted the consecration issue with MALANKARA METROPOLITAN or MSCA never recommended the consecration and creation of 6 Dioceses which he(peterIII bava)did himself!During the consecration of Six bishops Neither Malankara Methropolitan or the Bishop came together with H.H.PeterIII,Mar Gregorios(later H.H.Abdulla patriarch)was present during the consecration! More deatails available at Kandanadu GRanghavari!Some of the Clergy like Karavattu Shemvoon Kori,Malithara Elias Kathanar,Murimattathil paulose Kathanar,Vallikkattu Geevarghese Kathanar,Elamthuruthy philipose kathanar and 4 more priests and laymen like Kunnumpurathu T.Kurian,Muripurackal Kuruvila,Chathurithy Varky,Puthenpurackal Thoma,Konattu Ittan ,Thulakan Paulose,Kallarackal Paulose and other prominent laymen were against the registered Agreement/Udampidi that H.H. Peter III asked for the consecration of 4 priests/clergy (pampakuda Geevarghese Remban,Kadavil paulose remban,Ambattu Geevarghese remban and chathuruthil Geevarghese remban)Those clergy and lay people <br />mentioned above appealed against the decision of H.H.Peter III for not executing registered udampidi for those 4 candidates of Bishops!H.H. Peter III refused their appeal and told them it was his own right and will to consecrate Bishops with Registered Udampidi and nobody is being permitted to appeal against his decision,will and rights!<br />How did Peter III got this Superior power?Then after creation of 6 dioceses and New bishops he never held an Episcopal synod in Malankara!This is called misusing authority and power!<br />Coming to your point of Judging others:- what I said was true regarding 1958 peace and reconciliation of two factions after the Supreme court Verdict!After the expiry of 12 years of execution period,the big dynamite exploded! The Kalpana of Yakkob III, Patriarch(203/70) as well as making rebel Catholicose,ex-communicating H.H.Augen I and Malankara Episcopal synod without proper reasons etc etc are sufficient proof of my claims regarding 1958 peace/reconciliation was purely done for escaping from paying compensation to MOSC as per court verdict(Irs. 12Lakhs plus Expenses of court case),and loss of Churches and properties!<br />Yes, God is the right Supreme Judge and he is going to Judge both Factions of Malankara church including you and me!<br />May God almighty Bless you!rajanthomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954663272094979889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067300766668479829.post-60639498154169909132012-01-10T05:25:44.656+05:302012-01-10T05:25:44.656+05:30@MSO
You are misquoting what I have already said/w...@MSO<br />You are misquoting what I have already said/wrote!I did not talk about canonical validity of Bishop Kochuparambil mar Coorilose! I cannot give you any website of MOSC of all details in this regard! I have very limited time in using the internet facilities!You may read The books(church history) of Z.M. Paarettu for more deatails about Malankara Associations as well as Church history! I do not have any history book with me now!<br />Although Abdulla bava ex-communicated Vattasseril Mar Dionyasius,fromKunnamkulam(kandanadu diocese) a deacon known as,Cheruvatthoor Kuriakose was ordained as priest by Vattaseril Thirumeni(This priest was later known as Yakkoob Chor Episcopa or as Kunnamkulam Kandeekkal Achen)! This was a great shock to H.H.Abdulla Bava who was in Malankara by then,Sleeba mar Osthathios,CJ.Kurien and <br />Konattu Malpan!Those people(supporters of Antiochean Bava) C.J Kurien and Konattu Malpan went court for banning/ Excommunicating this Priest but court ordered that the Validity of the Priest ordained by Mar Dionyasius of Vattasseril in 1917 (medam 30)by Trichur/kunnamkulam court!<br />Since There were no Episcopal Synod ever conducted by H.H. Peter III;H.H.Abdulla or by Elias III in Malankara,your Concern about consensus by synod or the Google site Comments are totally baseless/wrong and to be ignored! regarding Catholicate establishment in Malankara!The Google site report about the Co-trustees of Malnkara in 1912 are totally False/wrong information!Konattu Mathen Malpan and C.J.Kurien were removed from their position as Co-trustees with Malankara Methropoltan by M.D. seminary Association during 1911 (chingam,22)replaced by Pampakuda Palappillil(fr) Paulose Kathanar and C.K. Abraham (kottayam)as new co-trustees!At this point there were two factions in malankara church(supporters of Patriarch Vs supporters of Malankara methropolitan)During that crisis,(when two factions were existing and contesting for legality/validity) and /issue matter was taken to court for verdict / awaiting judgement it is not logical to make accusations or argumentsrajanthomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954663272094979889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067300766668479829.post-91408293112369396642012-01-10T01:07:32.145+05:302012-01-10T01:07:32.145+05:30Dear Malankara syriac Orthodox,
You are trying to...Dear Malankara syriac Orthodox,<br />You are trying to justify the misdeeds/actions of Antiochean Patriarch here in Malankara! H.H.Abdulla Patriarch were acting against the decisions/resolutions passed by Mulanthurithy Association!<br />During 1908( as per Malayalam Era Month Kumbham 15)Malankara Assoction was held under Pulikotil,Joseph Mar Dionyasius for the consecration of of Paulose Remban (Kochumparabil Coorilose), Geevarhese Remba(Mar Dionayasius) as Bishops,including deacon Sleeba (sleeba Mar Osthathios the colletor of Resheesa on behalf of patriarch)!Prior to that Malankara Metropoltan Joseph Mar Dianyasius wrote to H.H. Abdulla for the consecration of 3 more bishops in Malankara.In his reply Abdulla Bava told Joseph Mar Dianyasius ,that he (H.H.Abdulla) was coming shortly in Malankara,prior to that any consecration of Bishops are required urgently, the candidates are to be sent to Turkey(mardin)!Abdulla bava arrived here in Malankara 1909(kanni-09)<br />In 1910 H.H. Abdulla made registered agreement with Aluva Mar Athanasius (having full authority/ownwership on all parishes and church properties under the jurisdiction of each bishops under their Diocese by Antiochean Patriarch) Diuring the same time/ year( chingam 29) H.H.Abdulla Patriarch forced Kochuparambil Coorilose to make a Registered Udampidi(agreement) and it was made by Mar Coorilose on the same Day! Thus 3 Bishops in Malankara,Edavazhikal mar Severios(knanaya) Paulose Mar Athanasios(aluva)And Kochuparambil Coorilose became Antiochean supporters!He(H.H. Abdulla) demanded Vattasseril mar Dianyasius to make such UDAMPIDI(Registered agreement)with Bava!Vattasseril Mar Dianyasius refused like his precedent Malankara methran Pulikottil Jseph Mar Dianyasius !Therefore Mar Abdulla Patriarch ex-communicated Vattasseril Dionyasius!(this was done without any Synod recommendations)<br /><br />When Jesus Christ gave his authority to his 12 apostles(disciples) read St. Mathew10-1-14; 28:18-19,St.Luke 10-1-11) and there were no Registered agreement or Udampidi the disciples made neither Spiritual nor Material/properties/possessions!<br />Morever The Antiochean Patriarch used to behave like Dictators or Kings in Malankara! You can only make allegations as long aa you Justify the misdeeds and wrongs of Patriarch of Antioch!<br />the black and white or perfections and imperfections are created by your Antiochean Masters (so called Holy Fathers)and not indigenous bishops like Vattasseril Thirumeni !<br />Parumala Thirumeni became a saint because of his pure/holy life and dedication to Lord Jesus Christ!not because of H.H. Peter III or his consecration of 6 bishops!!<br /><br />As long as you try to Justify the misdeeds and actions of Antiocheans here in malankara, <br />there is no need of further comments from me here for a united<br />church in Malankara !rajanthomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954663272094979889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067300766668479829.post-64673009122080002002012-01-09T19:52:40.537+05:302012-01-09T19:52:40.537+05:30Dear MSO
Although H.H. Peter III created diocese ...Dear MSO<br />Although H.H. Peter III created diocese and consecrated bishops here without following the tradition or Canon,those 6 bishops did not act beyond powers of Malankara Metropolitan and they worked together for a united church in Malankara! The Saint Of Malankara, Parumala Mar Gregorios did not create any division in Malankara Church! You are merely dragging the names of Parumala Thirumeni for arguments not based on principles!<br />Vattaseril mar Dianyasius and kochuparambil Mar Coorilose went together to Mardin with knowledge and consent of Malankara metropolitan for their elevation as Bishops!<br />H.H.Abdulla cannot neither conduct or call for an Malankara association without the consent,knowledge Malankara Metropolitan.He(H.H.Abdulla) called an Association in Aluva in 1911 after ex-communicating Vattasseril Mar Dionyasius!<br />Mar Abdulla patriarch created divsion here in Malankara for establishing his temporal powers! Due to this there were two factions <br />in Malankara those who sided with Patriarch and those who sided with Mar Dionyasius of Vattasseril! <br />Your call for consensus of synod does not arise here due to the dictatorship of exercising temporal powers and love for money!Why Abdulla Patriarch did not call for A synod Meeting in Malankara for ex-communicating Vattasseril Dionyasius? please answer to this before making and continuing with your allegations and false stories!rajanthomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954663272094979889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067300766668479829.post-86799161036183767162012-01-08T00:10:49.207+05:302012-01-08T00:10:49.207+05:30@MSO
the Google site you quoted or relied are enti...@MSO<br />the Google site you quoted or relied are entirely are false/fabricated information regarding Catholicate in <br />Malankara as the source do not mention their own identity, background history/authenticity/ are unreliable/untrustworthy <br />without having sufficient investigations or research historical/canonical background of MALANKARA Orthodox Church!<br />anybody can create such unreliable/ sites in Google blogs!rajanthomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954663272094979889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067300766668479829.post-75039751847698981922012-01-07T22:52:51.096+05:302012-01-07T22:52:51.096+05:30Dear Rajan Thomas,
You say again:
"The Three ...Dear Rajan Thomas,<br />You say again:<br />"The Three Bishops that you mentioned in Malankara wre not consecrated as per Malankara Suriyani Kristhiani Association request or knowledge,recommendation!"<br /><br />The three Bishops that I mentioned are:<br />1) Kochuparambil Paulose Mar Coorilose<br />2) Kuttikkattil Paulose Mar Athanasious (Aluva Valiya Thirumeni)<br />3) Edavazhikkal Mar Severious<br /><br />I wont go into the details of how Aluva Valiya Thirumeni was elected and enthroned in 1910.<br /><br />However please keep in mind that #1 Kochuparambil Paulose Mar Coorilose was ordained along with Vattesseril Thirumeni in Jerusalem by H.H Abd Allah. There was no 1934 constitution at that time. So what ever procedure was used to elect and ordain Vattesseril Thirumeni, the same was used for Kochuparambil Paulose Mar Coorilose.<br /><br />Now in your own words, H.H Peter III ordained 6 rebel Bishops without any election. These rebel bishops that you name include our own saint, Parumala Thirumeni. But in this context, keep in mind that Murimattathil Mar Ivanious Thrirumeni was in this list too.<br /><br />That is why keep on saying, our history is not black and white. There are no perfect and imperfect sides.Malankara Syriac Orthodoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10983881480025097309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067300766668479829.post-36022739873497708022012-01-07T22:43:35.613+05:302012-01-07T22:43:35.613+05:30Dear Rajan Thomas,
You say:
"The Jacobites an...Dear Rajan Thomas,<br />You say:<br />"The Jacobites and H.H.Yakkob III Patriarch made the peace and reconciliation in order to ,avoid paying Compensation and loss of Parishes and Properties in their possession!There were no genuine or real Christian peace/reconciliation was not in their hearts!"<br /><br />Please do not say that, because of two things:<br />1) Not all Jacobite think and act alike. So there is no way you can say 100% of all Jacobites did one way or the other way.<br />2) I am sure you are a good Christian. Still you don't have the ability to read the intentions of the 'hearts' of others. That judgement of intention is just reserved for our Lord.Malankara Syriac Orthodoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10983881480025097309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067300766668479829.post-35324457604016974662012-01-07T22:37:55.943+05:302012-01-07T22:37:55.943+05:30Dear Rajan Thomas,
You say:
"Kottayam M.D. se...Dear Rajan Thomas,<br />You say:<br />"Kottayam M.D. seminary Malankara S.K. Association (1911,Chingam22 wherby 215 parish and representaives attended)fully endorsed installaion of Catholicate here in Malankara by inviting Abded Mshiha patriarch here"<br /><br />It is the details of this association that I have been asking. I would like to get the list of 1) Priest 2) Lay Person from each of the parishes. If you cannot give me the list of all the 215 parishes, it would be great if you can at a minimum provide me the list for parishes from 4 out of the 7 dioceses at that time; namely 1) Angamaly 2) Kochi 3) Kandanad 4) Kottayam.<br /><br />You dont have to type all the details here. If it is on some website you can send me the link.Malankara Syriac Orthodoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10983881480025097309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067300766668479829.post-6122001314084327322012-01-07T02:27:36.384+05:302012-01-07T02:27:36.384+05:30@MSO
The Three Bishops that you mentioned in Mala...@MSO<br />The Three Bishops that you mentioned in Malankara wre not consecrated as per Malankara Suriyani Kristhiani Association request or knowledge,recommendation!<br />Aluva Paulose Mar Athanasius was conscrated by Abdulla as a ribel Methran, by Making registered Udampidi ( consenting or agreeing,Temporal powers in Malankara over Parishes and properties by Patriarch)! Edavazhikal Mar Severios was comscrated for vested interest of Knanaya Community for agreeing temporal powers of Patriarch in Malankara!in the absence of an Episcopal synod meeting in ever conducted in Malankara by H.H. PETER III., H.H.Abdulla or BY H.H. Elias III patriarchs,you cannot neither raise or call for a consensus of Episcopal Synod Meeting in 1912 for the Installation of Catholicose here !<br />further to this Kottayam M.D. seminary Malankara S.K. Association (1911,Chingam22 wherby 215 parish and representaives attended)fully endorsed installaion of Catholicate here in Malankara by inviting Abded Mshiha patriarch here! So your allegations are totally baseless and unfounded ! During 1970's H.B.Baselios Paulose II was consecrated By H.H. Yakkob III as ribel catholicose,without any Synod recommendation or Suriyani Christhiani Association!This was totally against The Decisions of Mulanthurity Association of 1876!<br />Also note due to the failure in supreme court in 1958 The Jacobites and H.H.Yakkob III Patriarch made the peace and reconciliation in order to ,avoid paying Compensation and loss of Parishes and Properties in their possession!There were no genuine or real Christian peace/reconciliation was not in their hearts!rajanthomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954663272094979889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067300766668479829.post-81251283111023941402012-01-06T18:14:34.852+05:302012-01-06T18:14:34.852+05:30Dear Malankara Syriac Orthodox
You are still going...Dear Malankara Syriac Orthodox<br />You are still going back Consenus of three Dioceses or three Bishops!Those three Bishops were made oath(registered Udampidi) with Abdulla Patriarch,allowing patriarch to have temporal powers on Malankara Church and properties, cannot be considered as major decision makers in Malankara Church! The Royal court in 1888/9 made the verdict that Patriarch does not have any temporal powers in Malankara!Irrespective of that those who gave him(patriarch) Temporal powers on Malankara Parishes or properties(3 dioceses of north) cannot be asking for a consensus!<br />You are asking for list a parishes and people participated in those Association or Synods as a proof!<br />In the universal/general Nicene Synod of 325 A.D. can you provide a list of participants or attendies! The participants from various places Antioch,Alexandrea and Rome etc had different list/number of attendies of synod held in Nicea!<br />The 3 dioces that you mentioned Agamali,Kandanadu,Kochi were under the influence of Konattu Malpan who was backing solely H.H. Abdulla! Abdulla Patriarch created division here In Malnkara and during that division of Crisis asking for Consensus are not logical or prudent!Abdulla partriarch did not call for a synod meeting to solve the problems in Malankara!<br /><br /> The Supreme Court of India after having gone through all exhibits and documents, gave the verdict of Validating the installation of Catholicate in Malankara during 1912!All the information that you had asked me, were submitted to the court during the trial of Samudaya Case!<br />You are trying to make a false and unrealistic claim now that is all!rajanthomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954663272094979889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067300766668479829.post-42861871250780015852012-01-05T22:14:50.686+05:302012-01-05T22:14:50.686+05:30Dear Rajan Thomas,
I am not trying to justify the...Dear Rajan Thomas,<br /><br />I am not trying to justify the mis-deeds of the Antiochean hierarchy. If you read all my postings on this blog, you will see my underlying theme has been consistent. All along I have been saying that mis-deeds in Malankara are from all quarters. If UNITY is needed, both sides need to approach each other with HUMILITY. Both sides should ask FORGIVENESS to each other and to GOD. Then with MUTUAL RESEPECT and LOVE, work together for the SALVATION of MEN.<br /><br />You say the Malankara Suriyani Christiani Association authorized the establishment of the Catholicate in Malankara in 1911. If that is the case, can you please send me the list of participants at this association from each of the parishes from Angamaly, Kandanad, Kochi and Kottayam dioceses. It should not be difficult. We have the list of participants (Priests and Lay men) by parish church from an association that was held earlier in 1876 at Mulanthuruthy.<br /><br />The Mulanthuruthy association was a very well respresented one. As far I know, the so called association that you are referring to, was a partisan association with very mimimal representation from Angamaly, Kandanad, Kochi and even Kottayam diocese. And any time you have decisions made without consensus, divisions do occur. If an association like Mulanthuruthy association with good representation from all churches had authorized the the establishment of Catholicate in 1911, there would not have been division.<br /><br />Please dont mis-understand me, I am not saying that H.H Abd Allah is innocent in this. He contributed to the division. But the response to it, was not an association of unity; as far as I know. I stand to be corrected, if you can send me the list of priests and lay person by parish church from Angamaly, Kochi, Kandanad and Kottayam diocese at the 1911 association that you are mentioning.Malankara Syriac Orthodoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10983881480025097309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067300766668479829.post-71465015237641551252012-01-05T20:55:04.599+05:302012-01-05T20:55:04.599+05:30Dear Malankara Syriac Orthodox
The Installation/re...Dear Malankara Syriac Orthodox<br />The Installation/relocation of Catholicate in Malankara during 1912.was not a sudden action by H.H.Abded Msiha Patriarch or quick decision/ceremoney by some people in Malankara!<br /> During 1889 ,Malankara Metropiltan Pulikottil Mar Dianyasius send a request to H.H. PeterIII through Konattu Malpan through the resolution passed by Malankara Suriani Kristhiani assciation regarding the installation of Maphriyanate in Malankara and H.H. replied "the matter/issue may be considered later"! During 1903 Abded Mshiha Patriarch wrote a letter to Mar Dianyasius(Malankara Metropolitan) and Paulose Mar Ivanios the installaion of Maphryanate in Malankara are being in Utmost Consideration! Again 1904 Konattu Mathen Malpan Sent a request to H.H. Patriarch with a full list of all Parishes in Kerala recommending/supporting installation of Maphriyanate in Malankara! During 1909 January Konattu Mathen malpan wrote a letter to H.H. Abded Mshiha patriarch,giving full support of malankara Church to him and again reminding him former request for the installation of Maphriyan in Malankara!<br />because of this letter to Abded Mshiha patriach by Konattu Malpan,H.H. Abdulla got annoyed,when Abdulla patriarch arrived in Bombay after two months,for visit in Malankara ,he rebuked Konattu Malpan at the reception in Bombay! <br />Therefor,there was nothing fishy or abnormal in establishment of Catholicate in 1912 by Abded Mshiha Patriarch in Malankararajanthomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954663272094979889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067300766668479829.post-35473078473153433302012-01-04T19:10:14.849+05:302012-01-04T19:10:14.849+05:30Dear Malankara Orthodox Syriac:
SOC/or Antioch Bis...Dear Malankara Orthodox Syriac:<br />SOC/or Antioch Bishops never preached gospel in India ,China or Japan!You cannot claim their liturgy was in those countries during the time H.H. Aprem I as there were no evidence in church history or traditions . Even in early Antioch church apart from St.Peter,Barnabas and St.Paul preached gospel and taught them liturgy(Acts 11:23-26)It was due to the combined team work of St.Paul and Barnabas the followers of Christ were called Christians!<br />your alleged claim of Episcopal synod in Malankara is like that a person without External nostrils blames a person with part of External Nostrils(mookkillathavan murimookkane kuttam parayunnathupole)The Bishops who were Consecrated by H.H. Peter III were without approval/consent from Malankara Suriyani Kristhiani Association or with consent and knowledge of MALAKARA MTROPOLITAN!<br />The Same Case With Abdulla Patriarch, he had excommunicated Malankara Metropoltan Mar Dinaysius<br />wihout a valid synod recommendation of Malankara Church, and he made seperate AGREEMENTS with those bishops he consecrated in order to have temporal powers in Malankara and thereby caused split in Church here!Those bishops in Malankara who made registered Agreement with Abdulla Patriarch cannot attend a Synod meeting that was to be called by Malankara Methropolitan,who was ex-communicated by Abdulla Patriarch. At the same time you are forgetting the validity of MALANKARA SURIYANI KRISTIANI ASSOCIATION Which endorsed the establishment of Catholicate Malankara! Therefore you cannot ask such question of Episcopal synod Consensus for establishment of Catholicate here! Even in Persian Church,Antiocheans Heirarchy consecrated Mapriyana without without consulting or gaining consensus of Persian Church!This is the reason why Bar Hebrews incorporated Canon(measuring rode)! The Catholicate establishment By H.H. Abded Msiha Patriarch is wrong according to Malankara Syriac Orthodox,then you are forgetting(closing your eyes) the acts of former Antiochean Patriarchs in the history of Persian Church or Maphriyanate in Thigris! when H.H. Peter III created 6 diocese in Malankara had he consulted Malankara metropolitan or gained Consensus from Malankara Suriyani Kristhiani Association?<br />It is better to conclude my postings here as You are not Following the scriptures or traditions of early church only trying to justify misdeeds of Antiochean Heirarchy here in Malankara!!rajanthomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954663272094979889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067300766668479829.post-41023015232942247532012-01-04T04:51:35.480+05:302012-01-04T04:51:35.480+05:30മലങ്കര മെത്രപോലിത ആയിരുന്ന വട്ടശ്ശേരില് ദിവന്യസി...മലങ്കര മെത്രപോലിത ആയിരുന്ന വട്ടശ്ശേരില് ദിവന്യസിയോസിനെ മുടക്കി അബ്ദുള്ള ബാവ!( പത്രിയര്കിസിനു മലന്കരയില് ലൌകീകധികാരം വേണം)!സ്ലീബ മാര് ഒസ്തതിയോസിനു(പത്രിയര്കിസ്<br />പ്രതിനിധി, ഒസ്താത്തിയോസ് മലങ്കര മെത്ര പോളിത ആകുവാന് വേണ്ടി അബ്ദുള്ള ബവയില് നിന്നും സ്തവാതിക്കോന് രഹസ്യമായി വാങ്ങിയിരുന്നു)ഇതിനു പുറകില് പ്രവര്ത്തിച്ചത് സി.ജെ. കുരിയനും കോനാട്ട് മാത്തന് മല്പാനും ആയിരുന്നു!അങ്ങനെ മലങ്കര സഭയുടെ ഭരണാധികാരം തട്ടിയെടുക്കാം എന്ന് അബ്ദുള്ള പത്രിയകിസു ചിന്തിച്ചു! കൊച്ചുപറമ്പില് തിരുമേനി,ഇടവഴിക്കല് സെവെരിഒസ് മ്തലയവര് അബ്ദുള്ള ബാവയുമായി രേജ്സ്റെര് ചെയ്ത ഉടമ്പിടി (മലന്കരയില് അവരുടെ ഭരണത്തില് ഇരിക്കുന്ന പള്ളികളും സ്വത്തുക്കളും പാതൃയകിസിനു ഉടമസ്തയില് ആണെന്നും ) അപ്പോള് അവര്ക് എങ്ങനെ പ്രതികരിക്കാന് പറ്റും!ഇവിടെയാണ് അബ്ദുള്ള ബാവയുടെ കുതന്ത്രങ്ങള് (ദ്രെവ്യാഗ്രഹവും അധികാര ദുര്വിനിയോഗവും) ഫലിക്കാതെ ഇരുന്നത്! മലങ്കര മ്ത്രാപോളിതയെ മുടക്കി പിന്നെ നാഥനില്ല കളരിയാക്കിയാല് തിരുമേനി (ബാവ) വിചാരിക്കുന്നതുപോലെ കാര്യങ്ങള് നീങ്ങും എന്ന് പത്രിയകിസ് കരുതി!മലങ്കര അസോസിയേഷന് കോട്ടയത്ത് ചേര്ന്ന്(൧൯൧൧ ചിങ്ങം ൨൨) കൂട്ട് ട്രസ്ടികളയിരുന്ന സി. ജെ കുരിയെനും കോനാട്ട് മാത്തെന് മല്പനയും മാറ്റി/നീക്കം ചെയ്തു! ഇവിടെ ഭൂരിപക്ഷം ദീവന്യസിയോ സിന്റെ കൂടെ ആയിരുന്നു! ഇങ്ങനെ മലന്കരയില് ഭിന്നത ഉണ്ടാക്കി ഇവിടെ കേസ് നടക്കുമ്പോള്,എപിസ്കോപാല് സുന്നഹോടോസ്,ആരുടെഅധ്യക്ഷതയ്ല് എവിടെ കൂടും? എങ്ങിനെ കൂടും!ഇവിടെ ഭീകരമായ അന്തരീക്ഷം ഉണ്ടാക്കി വട്ടശ്ശേരിയില് തിരുമേനിയെ കൊല്ലിക്കാന് സി ജെ കുര്യനും കൂട്ടരും പരിശ്രമിച്ചു,അത് സാധിക്കാതെ വന്നപ്പോള് വട്ടശ്ശേരിയില് തിരുമേനിയുടെ അംഗ രക്ക്ഷകനായിരുന്ന പപ്പി സാറിനെ കൊല്ലിച്ചു! ആ സമയത്ത് രണ്ടു ചേരികളായി രണ്ടു പക്ഷക്കരായി മലങ്കര ക്രിസ്താനികള് നില കൊണ്ടു! ഭൂരിപക്ഷം പള്ളികളും പട്ടക്കാരും വിശ്വാസികളും മാര് ദീവന്യസിനു കൂട്ട് നിന്നു! അതുകൊണ്ട് കര്ത്താവ് പറഞ്ഞത് പോലെ " നിങ്ങളില് പാപം ഇല്ലാത്തവന് കല്ലെറിയട്ടെ"! പാപം ചെയ്തിട്ട് ,പാപം ചെയ്യിപീചിട്ടു, പിന്നെ കല്ലെറിയാന് ആരും തുനിയരുതെ!vincenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16024035542134956213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067300766668479829.post-49736427902608326102012-01-04T03:39:35.771+05:302012-01-04T03:39:35.771+05:30Dear Vincent,
There are many Antioch fanatics who ...Dear Vincent,<br />There are many Antioch fanatics who will say all sort of things. I am not one of them. <br /><br />I AGREE with you, H.H Abd Allah overstepped his authority by removing a Metropolitan (Vattesseril Thirumeni) without consulting or getting the approval from the Synod. So this was improper , and it was corrected by H.H Elias III.<br /><br />Also H.H Abdul Messiah II, overstepped his authority by enthroning a Catholicose, without consulting or getting the approval of the Synod.<br /><br />So there was not just one wrong; there were many wrongs. That was my point from the beginning. <br /><br />The point I was trying to make was that Malankara history is not black and white, where one side is PERFECT and the other side is COMPLETELY WRONG. The fact is that both sides have made huge errors; and they should approach each other with HUMILITY and LOVE; ask FORGIVENESS to EACH OTHER and TO GOD.Malankara Syriac Orthodoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10983881480025097309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067300766668479829.post-26266587045767830022012-01-04T03:34:43.180+05:302012-01-04T03:34:43.180+05:30Dear Rajan Thomas,
There is nothing called a unifo...Dear Rajan Thomas,<br />There is nothing called a uniform West Syriac Liturgy. The Syriac Orthodox Church is spread over a very vast region which inlcudes the modern countries of Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Palestine, parts of Armenia, Georgia , Iran, parts of Afganistan, parts of China and India. The ligurgy used was not uniform across the board. There were wide variations in the liturgy. The one that was common was the Oriental Orthodox faith of the three ecumenical councils.<br /><br />The uniformity of the west syriac liturgy and the codification only happened very recently in the late 40s, early 50s under H.H Aprem I Patriarch.<br /><br />Even in the modern day Syriac Orthodox Church there are 22 anaphoras used. So just by saying that the H'Shimo (Sheema) prayer for Thursday used by H.G Abdul Jaleel Mar Gregorious does not match with what is used currently in Jerusalem does not prove or disprove that H.G Abdul Jaleel Mar Gregorious was from the Syriac Orthodox Church.<br /><br />One thing is certain, he was not Roman Catholic and he certainly was not Nestorian. And he was not protestant. That only leaves two other faiths; Oriental Orthodox or Eastern (Chalcedonian) Orthodox. I would say that he was Oriental Orthodox; and that would limit him to either Syriac or Coptic. The fact that he was using the Syriac language (which ever dialect it was), more or less proves that he was Syriac Orthodox.<br /><br />Where does St.Gregorious (Paraumala Thirumeni) say that he didnt find any proof that HG Abdul Jaleel Bava was from Jerusalem? I didnt see it in his travelouge. Is there a kalpana or a letter from Parumala Thirumeni?Malankara Syriac Orthodoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10983881480025097309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067300766668479829.post-52755549243543921792012-01-04T01:13:41.853+05:302012-01-04T01:13:41.853+05:30Dear Malankara Syriac Ortghodox
The Origin or Nati...Dear Malankara Syriac Ortghodox<br />The Origin or Nativity or identity of Abdul Jaleel Mar Gregorios not yet known!He never claimed that he was sent here by Soc/Patriacrh of Antioch!<br />if He was sent by Antichean Patriarch,there could have a connection between SOC and Malankara during his stay here!He never followed any W.Syriac Liturgy/vestments/ rite in Malankara!<br />regarding antiochean rite /liturgy came here after Sharalla Bava9A.D.1751) came here with his team!Mar Shakralla came here because of Correspondeces sent to west by Marthoma V!Mar Ivanios who was in the team of Shakralla (A.D.1751) after the demise of Mar Shakralla tried to westernise the Syriac rite here(w.syriac Liturgy)<br /><br />Elias III Patriarch came /visited Malankara during 1935!prior to that kuttikkaatil Paulose Mar athanasius (Metropolitan of Patriarch faction through delegate of Antioch patriarch Mar Yulios,requested patriarch Elias III to declare Mar Yeldho Baselios as a saint of Malankara!they also made preparations to that! <br /> During the feast of Kothamangalam Church,H.H.Elias III visited the Church but he declined to declare Yeldho Mar Baselios as saint!Later 1947 Malankara church declared him as saint!<br />Regarding the synod in A.D.325 (Nicene)the emperor Constantine issued the order!The Emperor was not a Christian Until his death! On his deathbed he was baptized by Mar Yousebios(the early historian)which was in A.D.337!The Roman catholic church or Latin church does not recognise him (Constantine) as saint!it was because of Royal/Imperial interference the Importance of Rome in the history of church or the Patriarch of Rome become like SUPERIOR among the others!<br />This is why split caused in in early Church and subsequently Antioch and Alexandrea were ousted!<br />The upholder of Orthodox faith was nicknamed by western church!Jacob Burdhana, was real Holy Father who stood for Faith and Unity! But his successors of Antioch Patriarch later severed out of his path/principles and they were purely after temporal powers of Church in Malankara!<br />Vattasseril Mar Dionayasius never stood against the Spiritual leadership of Antioch Patriarch!He was against temporal powers being exercised by Antioch patriarch in Malankara!Read St.Paul's epistle 1Timothy 5:17-21,2 Timothy 3:1-15,and Timothy6:3-10!rinsamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05021004905383315795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067300766668479829.post-64158983697891071202012-01-03T18:13:27.092+05:302012-01-03T18:13:27.092+05:30@Malankara Orthodox Syria
Mar Abdul Jaleel Gregori...@Malankara Orthodox Syria<br />Mar Abdul Jaleel Gregorios did not follow the W.Syriac Liturgy orvestments, Traditions!Whatever he told people in here by then we do not know! The Thaksa he used is an evidence to that!Labelling him as an antochean without sufficient proof are not true history!<br />Parumala St.Grgorios visited Jerusalem and he stayed with Bishop of Jerusalem and there is no mention in the history of Antiochean/Jerusalem, Prelates about Mar Abdul Jaleel Gregorios!<br />moreover when H.H. Peter III visited VADAKKAN PARAVOOR church, he ordered relocation of tomb/relics of Abdul Jaleel Mar gregorios from the Altar of church!The Church foundation Sacrament instruct(shila Sthapana koodahsa)the bones of saint shall be laid together with stone of foundation under the Altar or Thronose!<br />again the Prayers of Thursday evening,used by Abdul Jaleel Mar Gregorios are not in accordance with West Syriac/Antiochean "Sheehmo" order!(refer E.M. Philip about this prayer through the Kalpana given by Mar Abdul Jaleel Mar Gregorios!<br />We cannot trace his origin(church) as of now!<br />He is being termed as an Antiochean Bishop by the people in Malankara without any evidence!rajanthomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954663272094979889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067300766668479829.post-32463088997676633222012-01-02T23:44:19.300+05:302012-01-02T23:44:19.300+05:30വട്ടശ്ശേരിയില് മാര് ദിവന്യസിയ്സിനെ മാര് അബ്ദള്...വട്ടശ്ശേരിയില് മാര് ദിവന്യസിയ്സിനെ മാര് അബ്ദള്ള പാതൃയര്കിസ് മുടകിയത് മലങ്കരയിലെ സുന്നഹദോസു കൂടിയാണോ? സുന്നഹടോസിന്റെ അറിവും സമ്മതവും കൂടാതെ എങ്ങനെ അബ്ദുള്ള പാത്രിയര്കിസ്<br /> തന്നിഷ്ട പ്രകാരം മുടക്കി? ആ സ്ഥിതിക്ക് ഇവിടുത്തെ പാത്രിയര്കിസു ഭക്തന്മാരുന്നയിക്കുന്ന ചോദ്യങ്ങള് ബാലിശവും വ്യര്തവും അത്രേ! കാനോനികമായി അല്ല മുടക്കിയത് എന്ന് വ്യക്തമാണ്!ക്രിസ്തുവിന്റെ ഭാവവും<br /> ആളത്വം ഇല്ലാത്ത അന്തോക്കിയന് പ്തക്കന്മാരുടെ അധാര്മികമായ പ്രവൃത്തികളെ ന്യൈകരിക്കുന്ന അന്തോക്കിയന് പ്രേമികളെ ആദ്യം ക്രിസ്തുവിനെ അനുകരിക്കുക! അതിനു ശേഷം മറ്റുള്ളവരെ നന്നാക്കിയാല് മതി!vincenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16024035542134956213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067300766668479829.post-73803590037459581092012-01-02T23:38:09.407+05:302012-01-02T23:38:09.407+05:30Dear rinsam,
You bring up the following:
1) You sa...Dear rinsam,<br />You bring up the following:<br />1) You say: There is no Universal Syriac Orthodox Church and there is no Universal Jurisdiction.<br />2) You say that as per the new 1980 constitution of the Syriac Orthodox Church, the Catholicose /Maphrian cannot become the Patriarch.<br />3) You say: "The Catholicate in Malankara is valid whatever you are trying to say here is unworthy and baseless!"<br /><br />I AGREE WITH YOU ON ALMOST ALL OF THEM. <br /><br />- The concept of universal syriac church. The universal church is the Catholic and Apostolic church is a union of all churches. This has to be changed.<br /><br />- The 1980 constitution provision about the Maphrian not eligible to be elected as the Patirach is unfair. The justification given is that none of the Middle Eastern Bishops are eligible to be elected as the Maphrian either. This is an unfair system and has to be amended.<br /><br />- The Catholicate in Malankara is valid. Nobody can say a 100 year old institution is invalid. All I am saying that the means by which it was esablished in 1911 were not proper.<br /><br />Then you say that what ever I am saying is unworthy. I will be the first one to accept, I am an unworthy and sinful person. I need your prayer for my salvation, so that our Lord in His infinite mercy will overlook my unworthiness and consider me worthy to enter into His Kingdom. Please do pray for me.Malankara Syriac Orthodoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10983881480025097309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067300766668479829.post-23311465088104222262012-01-02T23:30:48.621+05:302012-01-02T23:30:48.621+05:30Dear rinsam,
You say:
"The imperfection in M...Dear rinsam,<br /><br />You say:<br />"The imperfection in Malankara was brought by self claimed Holy Antiocheans or their deeds in Malankara!"<br /><br />Trust me brother, our Fathers here in Malankara had their own imperfections. And trust me, every Syriac Orthodox Patriarch was not pure evil either.Malankara Syriac Orthodoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10983881480025097309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067300766668479829.post-41625191082329863152012-01-02T23:23:43.919+05:302012-01-02T23:23:43.919+05:30Dear rinsam
1) You are still just saying that H.G ...Dear rinsam<br />1) You are still just saying that H.G Abdul Jaleel Mar Gregorious was not Syriac Orthodox; but you are not saying what church was he from. Please answer that question. Was he Nestorian? Was he Roman Catholic? Was he Chalcedonian Orthodox (Russian/Greek/Serbian)? Or Was he from another Oriental Orthodox Church (Coptic/Ethiopian)? <br /><br />2) You are characterizing the Roman (Byzantine) Emperor summoning the Councils of Nicea , Ephesus and Constantinople as Royal Interference. That is not how Orthodox Christians see it. We see these three councils as holy and inspired by the Holy Spirit. Your statements that these were royal interference corrupting the true Christian Gospel is the speak of Pentecostals. <br /><br />3) You asked me the provide you the list of Catholicose (Maphrian) of the East who were later elevated as Catholicose from the time period AD 869 to AD 1290. Here are some examples from that time period:<br /><br /><br />a. Mar David was the Catholicose (Maphrian) from 1215 to 1222. He was enthroned as the Patriarch of Antioch in 1222 with the name Mar Ignatius David III and remained the Patriarch from 1222 to 1252.<br />b. Mar Yuhanon Bar Madan was the Catholicose (Maphrian) from 1232 to 1252. In 1252 when Mar Ignatious David III passed away, this Catholicose was enthroned as the Patriarch and remained in that position till 1263<br /><br />You can see these Catholicose listed in the Indian Orthodox Network website. <br /><a href="http://www.icon.org.in/icon_lineage.icon" rel="nofollow">ICON – Indian Orthodox Netword</a><br />http://www.icon.org.in/icon_lineage.icon<br /><br />Now even after 1290, there were several Catholicose (Maphrian) that were later enthroned as the Patriarch of Antioch and all the East. From the list in the ICON website, the following were also enthroned as Patriarch’s later:<br />a) Mar Baselios Bahnam (Catholicose from 1404-12) , became Mar Ignatius Behnam<br />b) Mar Nuh (Catholicose from 1490 to 1494) became Mar Ignatius Nuh<br />After Mar Ignatius Nuh 1494, the list given by ICON does not list anyone by name till Mar Baselios Eldho of Kothamangalam 1634-1685. From the time of Mar Nuh and that of Mar Eldho; there were 5 more Catholicose who later went on to become the Patriarch of Antioch and all the East. I can provide names and dates if you are interested.<br />4) Rinsam, you say that Malankara Church does not need consensus from Antioch Synod to declare autocephaly. However for an Antiochian Patriarch to act, he needs the approval of his Synod. If H.H Abdul Messiah II was the Patriarch of Antioch, he cannot act without the approval of his synod. So at a bare minimum, you have to agree with me that H.H Abdul Messiah II overstepped his authority by participating in an event as big as establishing a Catholicate establishment without the approval of his synod.<br />5) Rinsam, even if the Malankara Church does not need consensus from Antioch; consensus is need in Malanakra. Prior to H.H Abdul Messiah’s arrival to Malankara there were 5 Malankara Bishops in India at that time; of which 3 were never consulted nor their cooperation sought or gained for inviting H.H Abdul Messiah or for establishing the Catholicate. So when I am talking about consensus, I am not talking about consensus with Antioch; I am talking about the consensus among the 5 Bishops in Malankara at that time.Malankara Syriac Orthodoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10983881480025097309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067300766668479829.post-41615710250274117192012-01-02T21:56:24.985+05:302012-01-02T21:56:24.985+05:30അബ്ദള്ള പത്രിയര്കിസ് മലങ്കര മേത്രപോളിത ആയിരുന്ന...അബ്ദള്ള പത്രിയര്കിസ് മലങ്കര മേത്രപോളിത ആയിരുന്ന വട്ടശ്ശേരില് മാര് ദിവന്യസോസിനെ മുടക്കിയപ്പോള്(൧൯൧൧ ഇടവം ൨൬) മലന്കരയില് ഉണ്ടായിരുന്ന ൨ സീനിയര് മേത്രപോളിതമാര് ആയിരുന്നു അല്വ്വരിസ് മാര് യുലിഒസ് ,മുരിമാട്ടത്തില് മാര് ഇവാനിയോസ് ,ഇവര് സംയുക്തമായി മുടക്കിനെതിരെ ഒരു സര്കുലര് പുരപ്പെടിവിച്ചു!ഉടെനെ തന്നെ മാര് അബ്ദള്ള ബാവ, ഉടനെ, മുറിമട്ടത്തില് ഇവാനിയോസിനെ മുടക്കി!മാര് അല വാരിസിനെ സിലോന്നിലേക്ക്(ശ്രീലങ്ക)യിലേക്ക് പറഞ്ഞുവിട്ടു! ഒരു മണിക്കൂറിനുള്ളില് കോട്ടയം വിട്ടു സിലോന്നിലേക്ക് പോകണം എന്ന ആജ്ഞ യാണ് അല്വാരിസിനു കൊടുത്തത്! തന്നിഷ്ട പ്രകാരം പ്രവര്ത്തിച്ചത് ആരാണ്!<br /> ഇങ്ങനെയുള്ള അവസ്ഥയില് മലന്കരയില് എവിടെ, ആര് സുന്നഹോടോസു വിളിച്ചു കൂടുമായിരുന്നു എന്ന് സാമാന്യ ബുദ്ധിയുള്ളവര് ചോദിക്കില്ല! അങ്ങനെ ചോദിക്കുന്ന അന്ത്യോക്യ പ്രേമികള് അബ്ദുള്ള പത്രിയര്കിസിന്റെസ്വെച്ചധിപത്യത്തെ പിന്താങ്ങുകയാണ്! അല്ലാതെ അവിടെ സ്നേഹം ,താഴ്മ , ദയ ,മുതലായ പരിശുദ്ധ ആത്മാവിന്റെ ഫലങ്ങള് ഉള്ളവരല്ല! ക്രിസ്തീയത ഇല്ലാത്ത വക്ര ബുദ്ധിയും ദ്രവ്യാഗ്രഹിയുമായ അബ്ദുള്ള പതൃയര്കീസു നിര്യാതനായത് എങ്ങനെയെന്നു മനസ്സില്ലക്കുക!vincenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16024035542134956213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067300766668479829.post-25515662321176490352012-01-02T09:00:55.443+05:302012-01-02T09:00:55.443+05:30Abded Masiha Patriarch was not canonically ousted ...Abded Masiha Patriarch was not canonically ousted or expelled by Antiochean/Syrian Synod, no evidence at all!Whatever the Jacobites claims are untrue and baseless as this issue was brought before the courts hearing "samudaya" Case in Malankara and court rejected forged documents submitted by Sleeba mar Osthathios/ Mar Julius the representaive and delegate of Antiochean Patriarchs!<br /><br />during The seminary case What Mar Dionyasius III said against CMS/anglican church/ Bishops cannot be taken as a valid statement regarding the Antioch /SOC relations as this was a story taught by Mar Ivanios who was consecrated by by Yeldho Mar Beselios to the Pakalomattam Methrans!<br />Mar Baselios (yeldho) who consecrated Mar Ivanios also gave him authority of conducting sacramentof Holy Muron(myron) by the Sthuathikon issued to him! How come a Maphriyan under the Antioch Patriarch do such thing as per Hoodayo Canon kept by Jacobites in UDAYAGIRI seminary?<br />Even The Present jacobite Heirarchy,Catholicose/Maphiriyana H.B.Thomas do not have such authority/powers from Syrian Patriarch/Universal Syrian head of Damascus!<br />Unfortunately,many antiochean/adorers or devotees in malankara or Jacobites in Malankara do not know how,when and where West Syriac liturgy or vestments came in Malankara and Prior Liturgy of Malankara before the coming of Sakralla Bava and later Changes made H.H. PeterIII in A.D.1875/6!<br />Anybody who got a HeadCover(Masanapsa) who came from persia/middle east were Called "bava" or representative of Antiochean Patriarch by some people/certain christian in Malankara especially in 16th/17 centuary A.D.without having enough proof of their Christian origin/background!This is the case still followed by some people who are self claiming to be historical students or self historians!sampariyarathuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04212078503317739066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067300766668479829.post-26691417363978794162012-01-01T07:06:41.455+05:302012-01-01T07:06:41.455+05:30സ്വന്തം കണ്ണിലെകോല് എടുത്തിട്ട് വേണം സഹോദരന്റെ കണ്...സ്വന്തം കണ്ണിലെകോല് എടുത്തിട്ട് വേണം സഹോദരന്റെ കണ്ണിലെ കരടു നോക്കുവാന്" ഇവിടെ മലങ്കര സഭയ്ക് സ്വയം ഭരണം ഉണ്ട്! അത് ഇവിടുത്തെ മലങ്കര സഭാ<br />മക്കള് ആണ് തീരുമാനിക്കുന്നത്! അല്ലാതെ വിദേശത്ത് നിന്നും ദ്രവ്യാഗ്രഹം മുഴുത് ഇവിടെ വന്ന അന്തോക്കിയന് പിതാകാന്മാരല്ല!മലങ്കര സഭാ മക്കളെ തമ്മില് തല്ലിയും കൊല്ലിച്ചും റിബല് മെത്രാന്മാരെ വഴിച്ചുംആണ് അബ്ദള്ള ബാവ എന്ന അന്തോക്യന് ബാവ ഇവിടെ മലന്കരയില് പ്രവര്ത്തിച്ചത്! പൗലോസ് ശ്ലീഹ തിമോതിഒസിനു എഴുതിയ ലേഖനം വായിച്ചിട്ടുള്ളവര്ക്ക് ഇത് മനസ്സിലാകും!<br />ഇവിടുത്തെ മലങ്കര മേത്രപോളിതായെ മുടക്കിയും അന്നുണ്ടായിരുന്ന മെത്രാന്മാരെ പ്രലോഭിപ്പിച്ചും മുടക്ക് എന്ന വാളിന്റെ മുനയില് നിര്ത്തി അവരെകൊണ്ട് ധനലാഭം കൊയ്യിച്ചും നടന്ന അന്തോക്കിയന് പിതാക്കന്മാര് ആരെങ്കിലും ഒരു എപിസ്കോപാല് സുന്നഹോദോസു വിളിച്ചു കൂടിഇയ ചരിത്രം മലന്കരയില് ഇല്ലാത്ത അവസ്ഥയില് നാണമില്ലാതെ പറയുന്ന/വിളിച്ചുകൂവുന്ന കുറെ അന്തോന്ക്കിയ ഭക്തന്മാര് "കാതോലിക്ക സ്ഥാപനം" മലന്കരയില് ശരിയായ വിധത്തില് അല്ല നടന്നത്, സുന്നഹദോസു വിളിച്ചു കൂട്ടിയില്ല എന്ന് പറഞ്ഞു നടക്കാതെ റിബല് കതോലിക്കയയെ യാക്കോബ് മൂന്നാമന് വാഴിച്ചത് ഏതു സുന്നഹോദോസിന്റെ പിന്ബലതാല് ആണ്? മലന്കരയില് വന്നു ഭദ്രാസനങ്ങള് രൂപികരിച്ചു അവിടെ പുതിയ ൬ മെത്രാന്മാരെ വാഴിച്ച പത്രോസ് മൂന്നാമന് എന്തുകൊണ്ട് അദ്ദേഹം വാഴിച്ച മേത്രന്മാരെകൊണ്ട് സുന്നഹോദോസു കൂടിയില്ല?" അശ്ശാന് പിഴച്ചാല് എത്തമില്ല" എന്ന പഴംചൊല്ല് എത്ര ശരിയാണ്!<br />ഇവിടെ മലന്കരയില് സുവിശേഷം അറിയിക്കുകയോ/പ്രച്ചരിപ്പിക്കയോ ചെയ്യാത്ത ധന മോഹികളായ അന്തോകിയന് പിതാക്കന്മാരുടെ മേല്കോയ്മ സ്വീകരിച്ചു അടിമകളായി ഇരിക്കണം എന്നുള്ളവര്ക് അത് ചെയ്യാം! ഓര്ത്തഡോക്സ് ടി വി ബ്ലോഗില് നിങ്ങളുടെ അല്പത്തരം ദയവായി എഴുതരുതേ!vincenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16024035542134956213noreply@blogger.com