Puthenkurisu സൊസൈറ്റിയില്‍ കടുത്ത പ്രതിസന്ധി. തോമസ്‌ പ്രഥമന്‍ ബാവ പാത്രിയര്കീസു ബാവയ്ക്ക് രാജി നല്‍കിയത് സ്വീകരിച്ചു. ജോസഫ്‌ മാര്‍ Gregorios ഉം മറ്റൊരു മെത്രാനും കൂടി പോയി പാത്രിയര്കീസു ബാവയുടെ കയ്യില്‍ നിന്ന് രാജി തിരികെ വാങ്ങി. അമേരിക്കയിലെ മലയാളി യാകൊബയക്കാരുടെ മെത്രാനും ഭദ്രസനവും മലങ്കരയുടെ കീഴില്‍ ആക്കണമെന്ന Puthenkurisu സൊസൈറ്റി സുന്നഹദോസു തീരുമാനം പാത്രിയര്കീസു ബാവ നിരാകരിച്ചു. മലങ്കരസഭാ പ്രശ്നം പഠിക്കാനും തോമസ്‌ പ്രഥമന്‍ ബാവയുടെ നടപടികള്‍ അന്വേഷിക്കാനും അന്ത്യോക്യയില്‍ നിന്ന് കമ്മീഷന്‍ വന്നു. അഞ്ചു വര്‍ഷത്തേക്ക് കേരളത്തില്‍ പുതിയ മെത്രാന്മാരെ വാഴിക്കരുതെന്നു പാത്രിയര്കീസു ബാവയുടെ കല്പന. തോമസ്‌ പ്രഥമന്‍ ബാവയ്ക് തന്റെ നിലപാടുകള്‍ പറയാന്‍ അവസരം കൊടുത്തില്ല. ജൂനിയര്‍ മെത്രാന്മാര് Geevarghese മാര്‍ കൂറിലോസിനെ നിയുക്തനാക്കാന്‍ രംഗത്ത്.ജോസഫ്‌ മാര്‍ Gregorios രംഗത്ത് നിന്ന് തല്ക്കാലം പിന്‍മാറി നില്‍ക്കുന്നു.അസംത്ര്പ്തരായ മെത്രാന്മാര് മറ്റു ലാവണങ്ങള്‍ തേടുന്നു.
The Holy Synod of the Syriac Orthodox Church of അന്റേച്
തോമസ്‌ പ്രഥമന്‍ ബാവയ്ക്ക് പാത്രിയര്‍ക്കീസു സ്ഥാനം കിട്ടുമോ? ഉത്തരം
Constitution of Society. About Election of Sreshta Bava
Yakobaya Bharana Ghadana Asadhu by Vipin k. Varghese.
Ammaye Marannalum Anthionkyaye Marakkilla? by Fr. Johnson Punchakkonam.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 210 of 210On cot 5 I POSTED "Recently there were photos of new ordained IOC Bishops who visited Holy land. Under the link it was written that ur bishops celebrtaed holy qurban in syrian church.I just have a doubt that if IOC is againt Syrian christian then y are celebrating Qurbana in our church."
Many of u replied to me blaaa blaa my reply to all of u is
http://www.malankarasyriacvoice.com/pdf/hypocrysy.pdf
Dear Kariyachan
The Factions are not made by myself in Malankara!It is over a centuary incident due to court cases regarding the church property/wealth administration between two factions started around1909!But you know that even factions are now over as seperate two churche parties based on the same sacrements and faith!The Difference is mainly Superiority/supremacy Of Antioch Bava which was never existed during St.Peter's and other apostle's time in early church!Actually two parties of Syrian orthodox traditions! That is All!
@ Manu
Are you mature enough, to atleast compare two versions of history?
Are you grown up, to atleast understand that you wont get valid answers in both Malankara Syriac Voice and Motv.
First, you have sit and read good old books from both the groups.... rather that capsule size articles that come in Vishwasa Somrakshakan and Malankara Syriac Voice....
Second, people who post comments here are NOT spokespersons of the church. Who said, IOC is against SOC. Both are part of Oriental Orthodox Church.
Like how, your Jacobite members conduct, Baptisms and Marriages in Parumala church, with permission our bishops also enter your church.
Did we barge into your church in Jerusalem???? It is with permission of your church.
Did any of us, tell any of you jacobite members not to enter our church?? We restrict your bishops alone and not priests and laymen.
Because bishops are administrators and since they do not respect the law of the land and the various court orders, we do not allow them to conduct services in our churches. However they are always welcome to pay a visit and go.
If they want to conduct service, they have to respect the 1934 constitution, which jacobites once accepted and the law of this country, which the Supreme Court had clearly defined.
If your bishops (the leaders) cant do both, then stay away.
Are the Malankara Syriac voice ppl crazy??? Jacobites say, that our priests do not have any priestly sucession, and in kerala they want to purify, the churches, were IOC priest had conducted the qurbana.
Do they not want to purify St. Marks Monastery in Jerusalem, were our priests regularly go, atleast once in a month???
Recently they, MSV, showed a picture, of Osthatious Thirumeni with a statue of Mother Mary, and wrote a rubbish, "IDOL WORSHIP". Does the Jacobites NOT have a statue of Mother Mary in Manarukad???
Dear Manu
We are not bothered by your MSV allegations/lies!MSV is like another yellow Paper/media which always write falsehood/lies for the self existense of your society's glamour /glorification!Fr.Dr.K.M.George is an invited guest for the Peace and Mission conference in Damascus!He did not go there without Invitation!Why do refer us to visit your Yellow website!Although you jacobites are only an arch diocese of SOC and no voice in SOC or its Synod,are just barkerss only in Malankara!
Dear All
MSV and VS, all these publications are like Yellow papers!They write anything and teach their people hypocracy!Let Jacobites read Bible and learn what is Priest hood!They preach against what they are told in scriptures!Jesus Christ never told any disciples that St.Peter was His only one Successor or all other disciples are subordinate to St.Peter!Let Manu read the what Fr.Punchakkonam wrote in Orthodox Herald reproduced by MOTV just recently about St.Thomas and his Episcpacy! Dear Manu,it is not St.Peter alone who preached gospel in Antioch ,read acts of apostles chapt.11. This guy Manu does not even read bible as he only read and listen MSV and VS!!
The Bishop who came with KnaiThomas
Mar Joseph did not stay in Malankara!He did not consecrate any bishops/Priest for Malankara church!Furthermore they were not send by any Antiochean Partriarch or Synod!Again Why Knanaya Church and people remain as seperate entity in Malankara?The Persian Church was independant and without any contact with Antioch church until 5th centuary!
Dear Manu
IOC is not celeberating H.qurbana in your church!Your Church is Jacobite Syrian Church in Malankara!The Church(st.mark) in Jerusalem is not property of JOSC in Malankara!We have already given you proper answer to your question!Gossipping, writing lies are main media work of your MSV and VS!.They are not church media!
Dear Manu
IOC is not against Syrian Church/SOC of Antioch!It is Jacobite Syrian Church In Malankara who are ribels of IOC! It is your H.B. who told that IOC are your enemies!The Jacobites Do not know who is their father or mother!First of all you must understand/relalise/acknowledge who is your mother and father!After acknowledging/identifying properly about your parents we can have a fresh blog opened for such discussion!
only problem we are dissusion to much.Until we change our system there be will anti Indian people.In futhure jacobite will claim separte land by influnces of their spirtual leader.OUR COUNTRY HAS TO LEARN FROM CHINA.
MANY JACOBITES OPENLY SAID IF THEY FORGET THERE MOTHER THEY WILL NOT FORGET THERE patriarch.JESUS MOST LOVED PERSON WAS HIS MOTHER.IN INDIA MOST RESPECTED PERSON IS THEIR MOTHER.SEE JACOBITES THEY ARE READY KILL OR SACRIFCES THEIR MOTHER IN THE NAME PATRIARCH.WHAT GOOD WORD USED BY JACOBITES BY THEIR HOLY FATHERS .MISGUIDED PEOPLE WHO FOLLOWS THEM HAPPY WITH SLOGAN .THEY DONT LOVE THEIR MOTHER HOW WILL THEY LOVE THE COUNTRY .THEY MUST CONSIDER HAS SECOND GRADE PEOPLE.NO POTICIAL PARTY WHO RULES THIS COUNTRY WILL TAKE ACTION THEY NEED ONLY VOTE.
മലങ്കര യാക്കോബായ സഭ പഠിപ്പിക്കുന്ന ചിലസത്യവിശ്വാസ വിരുദ്ധ കാര്യങ്ങള്‍:-
(൧)മോശെ ജനത്തിന്റെ രക്ഷക്കായിജലംപുറപ്പെടുവിച്ചു,കര്‍ത്താവുരക്ഷക്കായി
ജാതികളുടെ ഇടയില്‍ തന്റെ സന്ദേശം വഹിക്കാന്‍ ശിമോനെ തിരഞ്ഞെടുത്തു!
൨)നമ്മുടെ കര്‍ത്താവായ യേശു സത്യപാറ ആയി ശിമോനെ തിരഞ്ഞെടുക്കുകയും
വര്‍ഗങ്ങള്‍ക് തലവനായി അവനെ തിരഞ്ഞയൂടുക്കുകയും ചെയ്തു
൩)പത്രോസിനെഅടിസ്ഥാന ശിലയായികേഫാ എന്ന് പേര്
വിളിച്ചു വ്യക്തമാക്കുകയുംചെയ്തു
൪)ശിമോനെ! എന്റെ ശിഷ്യ,ഞാന്‍ നിന്നെ സഭയുടെ
അടിസ്ഥാനമാക്കി വെച്ച് അതിന്റെ പണിക്കായി ആദിയിന്കലെ നിന്നെ ഞാന്‍ നിര്‍ണ്ണയം ചെയ്തു
൫)ലോകത്തില്‍ എനിക്കായ് സഭപണിയുന്നവര്കെല്ലാം മേല്‍നോട്ടം നിനക്കാണ്!ആരെങ്കിലും
വിരുദ്ധമായി പണിയുന്നെങ്കില്‍ നീ നിയംത്രിക്കണം!എന്റെ ഉപ
ദേശങ്ങളുടെ മകുടം നീയാണ്!
മുകളില്‍ പ്രസ്താവിച്ച കാര്യങ്ങള്‍ ഏതു ബൈബിള്‍ പ്രകാരമാണ് എന്ന്
ചോദിച്ചാല്‍ മറുപടി മാര്‍ അപ്രേം എഴുതി എന്ന് യാക്കൊബക്കാരന്‍പറയും
മാന്യ വായനക്കാരെ കമന്റ്സ് എഴ്തുക!
Dear Samji
Moses was the real servant of God who really performed what the Lord commanded to Moses to do/perform!It was Jesus Who produced water in desert for Israel to drink(as the rock was representing Jesus read 1corinth 10:4)
The True Rock is Jesus Christ!Simon Peter was called as Cephas!( Cephas/petro, means little stone which are good to build a house)again Jesus Christ is the Chief Corner stone, the apostles and prophets are stones of foundation(Ephesians 2:20)uopn which the church(body of Christ)being built!
Church represents the Body of Christ,in which Christ is Head of his church(Colos 1:16)
Jesus Christ is the First Born,He is before all things and Christ has supreme and life giving authority,in all things he may have preeminence!
from the above it is clear there is no Supremecy or leadership in Christ's church enjoyed By St.Peter as they were 12 eldersof early church!
About the teachings of Christ,more epistles were written by St.Paul regarding the faith,tradition and revelation of teachings by holy Spirit. The four church administration are also mentioned in St.Pauls epistles(overseer,elder,deacon and laity).All disciples were ambassadors of Christ therefore no supreme leader in Chirch Church on earth!
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