Dear All Whatever H.B.Thomas I and his group are demanding is totally unlawful!If referendum was applied in "AYodhya " issue , the Republic of India is and its sovereignty are not there! We,MOSC should follow the court orders!
Northern people are usually quick to react and slow to think and southern people are quick to think and slow to react. Both Bava and Konatt are northern people and that is why this nosense drama happend at Kolenchery. If it was Vattakkunnel Bava or Mathew 2nd Bava, or Didimos Bava or any other person like Mar Osthathios or Macarios or Chengannur Athanasisus on that throne, this drama in the street would not have happend. The Catholicos of the East is on the APOSTOLIC THRONE, and he should remember his position and protocol before uttering even a word. He should behave like a head of the state like President of India or Queen of Britian or like Pope of Rome or like Maharaja of Trvancore etc. Every action and words should be careful without making it futile or foolish. Shri.Oommen Chandy would have come and met him at his palace if he had demanded, but now the church faced the shame that none of the leaders came to the street to visit him. He should not have fallen into the trap of the two bishops who are commonly called 'Aprem Mar Iprem' ( Appuram Mari Ippuram metrans) who are the root cause for any trouble in the Malankara church at present.
One thing is clear anything made in Kunnamkulam has the same standard, whether it is electronic items, car or even bishops !!. Remember the last word of Makarios thirumeni in Malankara synod- My problem is over, your problem begins !! - was that a prophetic message ???
This article is to be printed as a booklet and to be distributed to all the parish churches so that it will reach all the church members including patriarch faction .
യകൊബാകരന്റെ വേലതരംഗല്‍ ഒക്കെ കയ്യില്‍ വെച്ചാല്‍ മതി .. ഈ ച്ചറ്റിയില്‍ വെകത്തില്ല ..
തെക്ക്- വടക്ക് എന്നൊരു വിത്യാസം ഓര്‍ത്തഡോക്‍സ്‌ സഭയില്‍ ഇല്ല .. അതുണ്ടാക്കാനും ശ്രമികണ്ട ...
പിന്നെ സൂത്രടില്‍ വന്നു, മിലിതിഒസ് തിരുമേനിക്കും, അതനസിഔസ് തിരുമേനിക്കും ഒരു ഡോസ് ... എന്തൊരു അറബി ബുദ്ധി ... കുറച്ച പ്രഥമനു കൊടുക്ക്, പുള്ളികാരന് ഇപ്പൊ അറബി ബുദ്ധി കുറച്ചു അതിയവശ്ശിയം വേണം ...
Please confirm that you are from Malankara Orthodox Church.
If so
1. Please think before you write something . Your comments shows you are neither capable in reaction nor wise , nor capable in thinking. But You are quick in misthinking.
2. Malankara church is one. No north and south business required in the church. You should avoid regional and sectarian thinking in our church.
3. True lovers of the malankara Orthodox church has no doubt in their mind about the sincerity of both the bishops (you mentioned in your comment) towards the church. And our bishops are real lovers of Malankara Orthodox Church.
ഡിയര്‍ മാത്യു , താങ്കള്‍ ഏത് സഭാക്കാരന്‍ ആണെന്നറിഞ്ഞു കൂടാ .ഒരു ആര്‍ട്ടിക്കിള്‍ വന്നപ്പോള്‍ അത് നല്ലതതാണെന്ന് കണ്ടാല്‍ അഭിപ്രായം പറയുക.പക്ഷെ അതിനിടയില്‍ കുരുട്ടു ബുദ്ധി വേണ്ട .മലങ്കര സഭയുടെ ഇന്നത്തെ കാതോലികോസ് ജനിച്ചത്‌ ഏത് സ്റ്ലതനെന്നു അറിയാമോ . മലങ്കര സഭ മക്കള്‍ അതെപ്പറ്റി ചിന്തിക്കുന്നില്ല . അദ്ദേഹം ഞങ്ങളുടെ പിതാവ് ആണെന്ന് വിശ്വസിക്കുന്നു. തെക്കും വടക്കും എന്നൊന്നും ഇല്ല സഭയിലെ എല്ലാ പിതാക്കന്മാരും തുല്യരാണ് . ഓരോരുത്തര്‍ക്കും ഓരോ കഴിവ്.അതൊക്കെ പ്രാര്‍ത്ഥനയിലൂടെ പരിശുധാട്മാവില്‍ തിരഞ്ഞെടുക്കപ്പെട്ടവരാണ് എന്ന് ഞങ്ങള്‍ വിശ്വസിക്കും .അവരുടെ കുറ്റം നോക്കലല്ല അവരുടെ നന്മകളെ തിരിച്ചറിയുകയാണ് .മംഗളം പത്രം ചെയ്യുന്നത് പോലെ കുറുക്കു വാതിലൂടെ അകത്തു കടന്നു വരുന്ന ചെന്നായുടെ പ്രവര്‍ത്തി വേണ്ട.ഇടയന്‍ തിരിച്ചറിയും എന്ന് മറക്കാതിരിക്ക.
It is clear about one aspect, but HB Thomas I and company may not understand the truth, because they can see only the "Goonda" agenda to be implemented. I like this article should point out one of the foundation stone in our democracy is Judiciary. If HB Thomas I and company can not accept this fact, why did they drag the issues since 1974 into the Court system. We should pray for HB Thomas I and company for wisdom and God's intervention, so that they will stop this "Goondaisam".
One thing is true the Jesus Christ went away from our churches. We don't need HIM. We need status, power, Money etc. It is difficult to find a Christian in Christianity even in our Spiritual leaders. what a pity....!
Jusus went away from our churches, we need only HIS name and property we don't need HIM. Can we find out a Christian in Christianity, even it is difficult to find out in our spiritual leaders. All they need money, power, Property. The present day fight is a shame to every those who are known as Christians. Think differently, act differently, show others we are christians.
hi mr rajeev, I wounder how you compare kerala state is the part of india and one orthadox church is the part of malankara association. 2nd thing who is the head of the church& asciation.shame mr rajeev. one more doubt all our cathalic brothers (the bigest church in india)saying pope is the head of their church,and their archbishop saying patriyarc is the elder brother of pope.what you thing all the cathalics and jacobites are foolish people and only indian (before malankara syrian)orthadox church is the bright people.
A good thought brought out in a logical way to explain the position of the church.The problem is, who will listen to reasoning?The real situation on the ground is that , issues being so complex , even church members are confused.
When you decide to descent, you should ready for any sacrifice.Christian spirit is that.If values are lost,as it happens today, it can not have a christian solution. We will hope for a Divine interference.
Dear Mr. Mathew, Who are northern people?North part of kerala or north part of India.You are still in Tiru-Kochi era.Malabar added to Tiru-Kochi and Kerala state formed.Now Trichur district is the centre point of Keral state.You mean people of north part of Trichur are northern people? We know that you are an agent of gunda pradhaman and trying confuse our people.But that isn't going to happen.HH paulose 11 is our Bava and we will stand behind him at this crucial time.There is no north-south in our church
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Dear All
Whatever H.B.Thomas I and his group are demanding is totally unlawful!If referendum was applied in "AYodhya " issue , the Republic of India is and its sovereignty are not there!
We,MOSC should follow the court orders!
Northern people are usually quick to react and slow to think and southern people are quick to think and slow to react. Both Bava and Konatt are northern people and that is why this nosense drama happend at Kolenchery. If it was Vattakkunnel Bava or Mathew 2nd Bava, or Didimos Bava or any other person like Mar Osthathios or Macarios or Chengannur Athanasisus on that throne, this drama in the street would not have happend. The Catholicos of the East is on the APOSTOLIC THRONE, and he should remember his position and protocol before uttering even a word. He should behave like a head of the state like President of India or Queen of Britian or like Pope of Rome or like Maharaja of Trvancore etc. Every action and words should be careful without making it futile or foolish. Shri.Oommen Chandy would have come and met him at his palace if he had demanded, but now the church faced the shame that none of the leaders came to the street to visit him. He should not have fallen into the trap of the two bishops who are commonly called 'Aprem Mar Iprem' ( Appuram Mari Ippuram metrans) who are the root cause for any trouble in the Malankara church at present.
One thing is clear anything made in Kunnamkulam has the same standard, whether it is electronic items, car or even bishops !!. Remember the last word of Makarios thirumeni in Malankara synod- My problem is over, your problem begins !! - was that a prophetic message ???
kodathi vidhi angeekarikathavarodu ethu paranjitu anthu karyam.
agree with you.....mr; rajeev..referendum is not the solution for this disputes..obey the court orders..
This article is to be printed as a booklet and to be distributed to all the parish churches so that it will reach all the church members including patriarch faction .
Very True and useful article.
Simply explained...... കണ്ണ് ഉള്ളവന്‍ കാണട്ടെ, ചെവി ഉള്ളവന്‍ കേള്‍കട്ടേ. well Rajeev,
@ Mathew...
യകൊബാകരന്റെ വേലതരംഗല്‍ ഒക്കെ കയ്യില്‍ വെച്ചാല്‍ മതി .. ഈ ച്ചറ്റിയില്‍ വെകത്തില്ല ..
തെക്ക്- വടക്ക് എന്നൊരു വിത്യാസം ഓര്‍ത്തഡോക്‍സ്‌ സഭയില്‍ ഇല്ല .. അതുണ്ടാക്കാനും ശ്രമികണ്ട ...
പിന്നെ സൂത്രടില്‍ വന്നു, മിലിതിഒസ് തിരുമേനിക്കും, അതനസിഔസ് തിരുമേനിക്കും ഒരു ഡോസ് ... എന്തൊരു അറബി ബുദ്ധി ... കുറച്ച പ്രഥമനു കൊടുക്ക്, പുള്ളികാരന് ഇപ്പൊ അറബി ബുദ്ധി കുറച്ചു അതിയവശ്ശിയം വേണം ...
@ Shri Mathew
Please confirm that you are from Malankara Orthodox Church.
If so
1. Please think before you write something . Your comments shows you are neither capable in reaction nor wise , nor capable in thinking. But You are quick in misthinking.
2. Malankara church is one. No north and south business required in the church. You should avoid regional and sectarian thinking in our church.
3. True lovers of the malankara Orthodox church has no doubt in their mind about the sincerity of both the bishops (you mentioned in your comment) towards the church. And our bishops are real lovers of Malankara Orthodox Church.
ഡിയര്‍ മാത്യു ,
താങ്കള്‍ ഏത് സഭാക്കാരന്‍ ആണെന്നറിഞ്ഞു കൂടാ .ഒരു ആര്‍ട്ടിക്കിള്‍ വന്നപ്പോള്‍ അത് നല്ലതതാണെന്ന് കണ്ടാല്‍ അഭിപ്രായം പറയുക.പക്ഷെ അതിനിടയില്‍ കുരുട്ടു ബുദ്ധി വേണ്ട .മലങ്കര സഭയുടെ ഇന്നത്തെ കാതോലികോസ് ജനിച്ചത്‌ ഏത് സ്റ്ലതനെന്നു അറിയാമോ . മലങ്കര സഭ മക്കള്‍ അതെപ്പറ്റി ചിന്തിക്കുന്നില്ല . അദ്ദേഹം ഞങ്ങളുടെ പിതാവ് ആണെന്ന് വിശ്വസിക്കുന്നു. തെക്കും വടക്കും എന്നൊന്നും ഇല്ല സഭയിലെ എല്ലാ പിതാക്കന്മാരും തുല്യരാണ് . ഓരോരുത്തര്‍ക്കും ഓരോ കഴിവ്.അതൊക്കെ പ്രാര്‍ത്ഥനയിലൂടെ പരിശുധാട്മാവില്‍ തിരഞ്ഞെടുക്കപ്പെട്ടവരാണ് എന്ന് ഞങ്ങള്‍ വിശ്വസിക്കും .അവരുടെ കുറ്റം നോക്കലല്ല അവരുടെ നന്മകളെ തിരിച്ചറിയുകയാണ് .മംഗളം പത്രം ചെയ്യുന്നത് പോലെ കുറുക്കു വാതിലൂടെ അകത്തു കടന്നു വരുന്ന ചെന്നായുടെ പ്രവര്‍ത്തി വേണ്ട.ഇടയന്‍ തിരിച്ചറിയും എന്ന് മറക്കാതിരിക്ക.
It is clear about one aspect, but HB Thomas I and company may not understand the truth, because they can see only the "Goonda" agenda to be implemented. I like this article should point out one of the foundation stone in our democracy is Judiciary. If HB Thomas I and company can not accept this fact, why did they drag the issues since 1974 into the Court system. We should pray for HB Thomas I and company for wisdom and God's intervention, so that they will stop this "Goondaisam".
One thing is true the Jesus Christ went away from our churches. We don't need HIM. We need status, power, Money etc. It is difficult to find a Christian in Christianity even in our Spiritual leaders. what a pity....!
Dear all
Jusus went away from our churches, we need only HIS name and property we don't need HIM. Can we find out a Christian in Christianity, even it is difficult to find out in our spiritual leaders. All they need money, power, Property. The present day fight is a shame to every those who are known as Christians. Think differently, act differently, show others we are christians.
BEWARE OF THOSE WHO WRITE ABOUT NORTH AND SOUTH.
We all know, who are too much interested to attack Militios thirumeni and Athanasios Thirumeni ..
Sorry Mr. Mathew, ഓര്‍ത്തഡോക്‍സ്‌ സഭയില്‍ തെക്കനും വടക്കനും ഇല്ല .. ഞങ്ങള്‍ വിശ്വാസത്തിലും പൈതൃകത്തിലും ഒന്നാണ്..
തോമസ്‌ ആര്‍കദായകന്‍ പോര്‍ച്ചുഗീസ്കരോട് പരഴ്ത് ഒന്നും കൂടെ ഒര്മിപിക്കുന്നു,
" ഞങള്‍ മാര്‍ത്തോമയുടെ മാര്‍ഗം സ്വീകരിച്ചവര്‍ ആണ്, പത്രോസിന്റെ മാര്‍ഗം ഞാഗള്‍ക്ക് അറിയില്ല"
hi mr rajeev,
I wounder how you compare kerala state is the part of india and one orthadox church is the part of malankara association.
2nd thing who is the head of the church& asciation.shame mr rajeev.
one more doubt all our cathalic brothers (the bigest church in india)saying pope is the head of their church,and their archbishop saying patriyarc is the elder brother of pope.what you thing all the cathalics and jacobites are foolish people and only indian (before malankara syrian)orthadox church is the bright people.
well mr rajiv,it will print and distribute to whole families of both orthodox and jacobites.god bless you.thankyou very much.
ALILLATHA PALLIYIL REFERRNDUM NADATHIYAL THALAYIL THORTHITTU NADAKKENDI VARUMENNU ARIYAKUNNATHU KONDU ENI ENGANE OKKA PARANJU NADAKKUKAYE VAZHI OLLU,,,,,,POOR KANJIKUZHI SOCIETY...
A good thought brought out in a logical way to explain the position of the church.The problem is, who will listen to reasoning?The real situation on the ground is that , issues being so complex , even church members are confused.
When you decide to descent, you should ready for any sacrifice.Christian spirit is that.If values are lost,as it happens today, it can not have a christian solution. We will hope for a Divine interference.
Mone Eldosukutty,
Referrunda thinte karyam angu Ladakkil poi parangal mathi.
Dear Mr. Mathew,
Who are northern people?North part of kerala or north part of India.You are still in Tiru-Kochi era.Malabar added to Tiru-Kochi and Kerala state formed.Now Trichur district is the centre point of Keral state.You mean people of north part of Trichur are northern people? We know that you are an agent of gunda pradhaman and trying confuse our people.But that isn't going to happen.HH paulose 11 is our Bava and we will stand behind him at this crucial time.There is no north-south in our church
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