Sunday, October 31, 2010

ഇന്ത്യന്‍ ഓര്‍ത്തഡോക്‍സ്‌ സഭയുടെ പുതിയ വലിയ ഇടയനു ആശംസകള്‍ നേരാം...

ഇന്ത്യന്‍ ഓര്‍ത്തഡോക്‍സ്‌ സഭയുടെ പുതിയ വലിയ ഇടയനു ആശംസകള്‍ നേരാം...

117 comments:

Rajan said...

we wish all our best
Your Beatitude Thirumeni, Rajan Philip and Family,Sheffield UK.

renni said...

Prayers & wishes to Thirumeni( H H. Baselios Marthoma Paulos II)
JAI JAI CATHOLICOS, JAI JAI CATHOLICOS, JAI JAI CATHOLICOS

Renni Philipose Mumbai Niranam

vava said...

congrats...........

Febi said...

Malankara Sabhayude puthiya Edayanu (Supreme Head) Ashamsakal.
By, Sunil K.Baby Mathoor, Shiney, Feba and Febi (Saudi Arabia)

THOMAS said...

WE WISH YOU ALL THE SUCCESS IN YOUR
FUTURE.MAY GOD BLESS AND GUIDE YOU.
THANKYOU.

THOMAS JACOB.
NEWTOWN SQUARE,PA
USA.

THOMAS said...

WE WISH YOU ALL THE SUCCESS IN YOUR FUTURE LIFE,GOD BLESS YOU.


THOMAS JACOB
NEWTOWN SQU
PA.USA

ADVOCATE JACOB COIMBATORE said...

May the blessings of the Almighty God be upon your Holiness and so that you may perform your Episcopal Ministry according to the will of the Almighty God. Our prayers are with you. God has chosen you for this great responsibility. when God chooses you for a particular mission, He also provides for it. Your vision and dedication will yield abudantly.Prayers & wishes to Thirumeni( H H. Baselios Marthoma Paulos II).JAI JAI CATHOLICOS, JAI JAI CATHOLICOS, JAI JAI CATHOLICOS...Advocate Jacob,Coimbatore

Isaac said...

We join million of well-wishers around the globe to wish and pray that May our Almighty God bless our new Shepherd His Holiness Moran Mar Baselious Marthoma Paulose II with Wisdom, Courage, Health and Longlife to lead our Malankara Orthodox Church through all the years to come.

Isaac Varghese and Family
Singapore

mani said...

Bangalore East St.Thomas Orthodox church( General Body & Vicar-Fr.Mani.K.Varghese) wishes His Holiness Baselios Marthoma Paulose II Catholicos of the East for his Sacred Enthronement.

Prof. Mathew Jacob said...

May the blessings of the Almighty God be upon your Holiness Baselios Marthoma Paulose II

Prof.Mathew Jacob,(Kottayam Central) Managing Committee Member,
Malankara Orthodox Church

Shaji said...

We are proud of having you as our New Catholicos and Malankara Metropolitan. All the best wishes for successfully leading and guiding us as our Great Shepherd.

Shaji Abraham & Family
Sabha Managing Committee Member
Kuwait

Saji karakkal said...

BEST WISHES TO HIS HOLINESS MORAN MAR BASELIOUS MARTHOMA PAULOSE II AND MAY GOD CONTINUES HIS BLESSINGS TO LEAD OUR CHURCH.

VARUGHESE CHACKO (DUBAI)
(SAJI KARAKKAL)

Regi Vakathanam said...

മലങ്കരസഭയുടെ പുതിയ ഇടയനു ആശംസകള്‍ പ്രാര്‍ത്ഥനാപൂര്‍വ്വം !. റെജി വാകത്താനവും കുടുംബവും, അബുദാബി.

tiju said...

CATHOLICA SIMHASANAM NEENAL VAZHATTE - tiju dubai.

varughesechackop said...

With Prayers & very Best wishes to our beloved Thirumeni.God may Bless you.

Varughese Chacko, Dubai

sam said...

Congratulations Your Holiness Baselios Marthoma Paulose,II!
May Almighty God Give you Strength and Wisdom and all Abilities in Leading our church MOSC!
On Belalf of St.Gregorios Congreagation,Kenya and My Self!
Sam kodiyattu

saji koshy said...

our humble wishes and prayers to the new Catholicos of the Indian Orthodox Church.may god bless India and our church.
saji koshy& family
New York,USA

fr.bobby said...

prayers&wishes to thirumani
fr.bobby,lijo&evelyn
cambridge
uk

Jiju said...

Catholica Simhasanam Neenaal Vazhatte

marpapa said...

We humbly pray to God Almighty to shower blessings upon HH Moran Mar Baselios Marthoma PauloseII, the New Shepherd, to lead the Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church, to greener pastures.
With love and Prayers,
Fr T. George,
& Members of the St.Peter's &St.Paul's Indian Orthodox Congregation, Drogheda, Ireland.

binu said...

We wish our new supreme head/ Catholicos of the east and Malankara Metropolitan to lead and guide our Holy Malankara Orthodox for decades and decades.May Almighty God give him strength to continue his service..Binu&Family Waterford,Ireland.

Innocent said...

I am surprised how can HB lead a church comprising of Thekkar. Is this Thirumeni really from Vadakku or is he migrated to Kunnamkulum. I am surprised how can there be Metrankashikal in the North. If he is really from Kunnamkulam that means we people in Piravum are from Thekku. How can that be? We call people down from Kottayam as Thekkar. Does this mean the people from Kunnamkulam will call we guys from Piravum, Thekkar. Don't know. We can't tolerate this!

Any way your beatitude is not approved by our Universal Prince Patriarch from Antioch as he has not taken his authorisation as your association is not approved by us.

philipthomas said...

Our Humble Prayers and best wishes from Vicar and members of the Cathedral of St. Mary the Theotokos, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

Fr Mathew C. Chacko said...

Vicar and members of Saints Basilios-Gregorios Orthodox Church of Central Jersey [North East American Diocese] joyously send our congratulations to His Holiness Baselius Marthoma Paulose II as he assumes the throne of St. Thomas, the Apostle to India. May God protect His Holiness and the Holy Spirit guide him to serve well his people and be a blessing to the Entire Church and the World.

Fr. Mathew Chethipurackal Chacko, Vicar, SBGOC, New Brunswick, NJ 6.45 PM Eastern Standard Time [USA]

Fr Mathew C. Chacko said...

Vicar and members of Saints Basilios-Gregorios Orthodox Church of Central Jersey [North East American Diocese] joyously send our congratulations to His Holiness Baselius Marthoma Paulose II as he assumes the throne of St. Thomas, the Apostle to India. May God protect His Holiness and the Holy Spirit guide him to serve well his people and be a blessing to the Entire Church and the World.

Fr. Mathew Chethipurackal Chacko, Vicar, SBGOC, New Brunswick, NJ 6.45 PM Eastern Standard Time [USA]

Jose said...

We wish and pray that the Holy Spirit strengthen and guide H H. Baselios Marthoma Paulos II to lead our church.
Jose Sam & Family, Detroit, USA

StMarysNOVA said...

Congratulations and best wishes from the Vicar and Members of St. Mary's Indian Orthodox Church of Northern Virginia, USA. May God strengthen Your Holiness and grant you good health, wisdom, and discernment to faithfully guide the flock entrusted to you. May the Holy Church be renewed and experience tremendous growth under Your Holiness' leadership. May God grant you many years!

With love and prayers,
Fr. George C Mathew (Benny Achen)

Varghese said...

Praying to Lord Almighty to bestow courage,strength and Health to our beloved Thirumeny to lead us.

Varghese said...

Praying to Lord Almighty to bestow courage,strength and Health to our beloved Thirumeny to lead us.

Geevarughese Valliaveettil said...

Congratulations and Best Wishes to the newly enthroned successor to the Throne of St. Thomas. May the Almighty bless and fill our beloved Bava Thirumeni with all the Wisdom, Strength and Vision to sheperd and lead the flocks of the Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church, as He blessed Moses, David and solomon to lead the people of Israel.
Geevarughese Family, Edmonton, Canada

Prasad said...

Wishing Our New Bava Thirumeni All The Best And Pray That The Almighty LORD GOD Bless Our SABHA And Also You (H.H Baselios Mar Thoma Paulose II) Catholicos Of The East And Malankara Metropolitian. May The Strength Of God Guide You Through Righteous Ways And May You Perform Your Sacred Duties To The Will Of The Lord and Laws Of The Sabha

Prasad John, Orlando, USA

john said...

WE WISH HIS HIGHNESS GREAT SUCESS IN FUTURE. MAY GOD BLESS AND GUIDE YOU.

JOHN K O & FAMILY
SECTOR 10 BHILAI

saji said...

May the blessings of the Almighty God be upon Baselios Marthoma Paulose II. Our prayers and wishes to Thirumeni.

saji philip, Thondomvelil, Thumpamon

SANTHOSH DANIEL ENNASSERIL said...

WE WISH YOU ALL THE SUCCESS IN YOUR
FUTURE.MAY GOD BLESS YOU.JAI JAI CATHOLICOS, JAI JAI CATHOLICOS, JAI JAI CATHOLICOS

BY
SANTHOSH DANIEL @ FAMILY
ENNASSERIL
ABU DHABI

Fr.Bejoy Varghese Chalil said...

we wish and pray that May our Almighty God bless our new Catholica Bava Thirumeni, His Holiness Moran Mar Baselious Marthoma Paulose II, with Wisdom, Courage, Health and Longlife to lead our Malankara Orthodox Church through all the years to come.

Fr.Bejoy Varghese and St.Thomas Orthodox Congregation South Africa.

john said...

Prayers and wishes to Bava Thirumeni



George Kuruvilla
Aiyankovil

Reju said...

പരിശുദ്ധ ഓര്‍ത്തഡോക്‍സ്‌ സഭയുടെ പുതിയ ബാവ തിരുമേനി അപ്പച്ചാ അങ്ങേക്ക് റെജുവിന്റെയും കുടുബത്തിന്റെയും ആശംസകള്‍

From ന്യൂഡല്‍ഹി

LINU said...

Jai Jai Catholicas Jai Jai Catholicos Jai JAi Malankara Othodox

I wish you all the best
May the GOD showers his blessing to you for all your future projects

may the trueth win forever

Linu Binu

bejoy said...

Prayers & wishes to Thirumeni( H H. Baselios Marthoma Paulos II)
JAI JAI CATHOLICOS, JAI JAI CATHOLICOS, JAI JAI CATHOLICOS

Yohannan, Pandalam said...

Holy father,

May the blessing of GOD ALMIGHTY give you a long Healthy and Prayerful life to guide the children of Saint Thomas and uphold the dignity and sovereignty of Catholicate of the East.

Yohannan Daniel

Bless said...

Best wishes to our CAtholicose Paulose Didiyan Bava

Zachariah Mammen &Fly (Kuwait)

Bless said...

Best and hearty wishes to our beloved shephered, H.H Baselios Marthoma Paulose Didiyan Bava.

Zachariah Mammen & Fly Kuwait

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Prayers and wishes to Bava Thirumeni(Marthoma Paulose-II)
Jai... jai....jai...Malankara Metroplitan, Jai...jai...jai...Catholicose,Jai..
Jai..Malankara Orthodox Sabha.

Babu Varghese,Laxmi Ngr,New Delhi

BIJUMON said...

We wish all the best. May the Almighty bless our Bava.
BIJU JOSHUA and Family Muscat

Fr Kurian said...

"Valia Edaya, Naichalum" Best wishes to Thirumeni.
Fr Kurian Abraham, Principal, St Gregorios School, Rourkela.

alexp said...

May the blessings of the Almighty God be upon your Holiness Baselios Marthoma Paulose II!!!!

Alex Pothen
Manjanamkuzhyil
Philadelphia, USA.

Mathew said...

May God Almighty shower all the blessings and strength on our new Bava Thirumeni to lead us especially the American Diocese.
John, New York

Rejy Karapuzha said...

A great accomplishment, Thirumeni, May God Bless You and Good Luck to the future development in Orthodox Sabha. May Your Mission Continues........

varughese said...

Praying to Lord Almighty to bestow courage,strength and Health to our beloved Thirumeny to lead us.

Prayers & Wishes
from
Madhu Ennakkad

Sen said...

appacha........ wish u all the best..... pray for us...... babykutty purathoottu

zaks said...

May the blessings of the Almighty God be upon your Holiness Baselios Marthoma Paulose II

SAJU & FAMILY
SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA

jojith's said...

We wish all the best to our new beloved H H. Baselios Marthoma Paulos II thirumeni. Lets expect a huge rise for the whole Malankara Church under his divine leadership...Njangalude swantham thirumenikku Ayiram Ayiram Ashamsakal...

Jojith and Family(KunnamKulam)
Trivandum.

manayil said...

best wishes with prayer

mathew varghese and family
bristol, uk

manayil said...

best wishes with prayer

mathew varghese and family

bristol, uk

Nebu said...

Prayers and wishes to our new
Holy Father.

On behalf of St. Thomas Orthodox Church, Dallas, Texas.

Nebu Cherian

royjohn said...

Prayers & Wishes to H.H Baselios Marthoma Paulose II



Roy john
Chelakavil
Thmpamon

YELDHO PETER said...

We Pray and wish all success to our beloved H B Paulose Mar Milithios Thirumeni The Catholicose Designate on the occasion of the elevation as H H Baselios Marthoma Paulose II the Catholicos of the east and Malankara Metropolitan of the Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church

fr.bobby said...

BEST WISHES&PRAYERS
VICAR & MEMBERS OF
ST.THOMAS IOC,CAMBRIDGE
ST.GREGORIOS IOC,SOUTH END ON SEA
ST.MARYS IOC COVENTRY.
ST.MARYS CONGREGATION KINGSLYNN.UK
FR.MATHEW ABRAHAM PALATHINKAL

St George said...

Prayers and best wishes to our Thirumeni.

On behalf of Sheffield Indian Orthodox Church,UK
Cibu Mathews

St George said...

Prayers and best wishes to our Thirumeni

On behalf of Sheffield Indian Orthodox Church,UK
Cibu Mathews

Joe G. said...

Best wishes and prayers to H.H. Baselios Marthoma Paulos II for a long life and may he guide and sheherd Orthodox faithful toward peace, prosperity, and progress.

Tom said...

Humble prayers & wishes to our Bava thirumeni, H.H.Baselios Marthoma Paulose II.

Tom Daniel(Pattazhy)
South Africa.

sam said...

Praise the Lord. Congratulations, Our Sincere Prayers and all the good wishes to new H.H. Malankara Metropolitan and Catholicose of the East. With Almighty's abundant blessing and with all good wishes from millons in this country His Holiness Baselios Marthoma Paulose II Bava Thirumeni will lead the Malankara Orthodox Church in the future

Sam Cherian Karuvely
Visakhapatnam

johnmabraham said...

മാര്‍ത്തോമ്മാ ശ്ലീഹായുടെ സിംഹാസനത്തില്‍ ആരൂഡന്‍ ആയിരിക്കുന്ന ബസ്സേലിയോസ് മാര്‍ത്തോമ്മാ
പൗലോസ്‌ ദ്വിതീയന്‍ കാതോലിക്ക ബാവാ തിരുമേനി,

അങ്ങേക്ക് ആശംസകളും ആയുരാരോഗ്യ സൌഖ്യങ്ങളും നേരുന്നു. അജപാലക ദൌത്യത്തില്‍ മഹാഇടയന്റെ
കരങ്ങള്‍ക്ക് സര്‍വ്വശക്തനായ ദൈവം ശക്തി പകരുമാറാകട്ടെ.

ജോണ്‍ എബ്രഹാം ആന്‍ഡ്‌ ഫാമിലി
സിഡ്നി

Binu said...

we wish all our best to Thirumeni. Malankara Sabhayude puthiya Edayanu Orayiram Ashamsakal.
Binu George and Family, New Delhi

John said...

With Prayers & best Wishes to H.H.Baselios Marthoma Paulose II Bava Thirumeni


John Kappil & Family,Philadelphia,USA

St. Stephen's said...

മലങ്കര സഭയുടെ പുതിയ ഇടയനായി സ്ഥാനമേറ്റ H.H. BASELIOS MARTHOMA PAULOSE II ബാവാ തിരുമേനിക്ക് അഭിനന്ദനങ്ങള്‍ അറിയിക്കുന്നതോടൊപ്പം പരിശുദ്ധ സഭയെ നയിക്കുന്നതിനുള്ള കരുത്ത് ദൈവം തമ്പുരാന്‍ പ്രദാനം ചെയ്യട്ടെ എന്ന് പ്രാര്ത്തിതക്കുകയും ചെയ്യുന്നു.
എന്ന്, അങ്ങയുടെ ആത്മീയ മക്കളായ റാഞ്ചി സെന്റ്‌ സ്റ്റീഫന്സ് ഓര്ത്തോതഡോക്സ് പള്ളി ഇടവക അംഗങ്ങള്‍

saji said...

We are proud of having you as our New Catholicos
Hard work pays OFF
And you have proved it!
May the blessings of Lord be with you Today and Always
Wish you all the best

SAJI KOSHY & FAMILY
ST.MARY’S ORTHODOX CHURCH
CHANDIGARH

Anita said...

Congtatulations and best wishes to HH Paulose 11.Jai Jai Catholicose.Mr.Innocent, you are still in the 18 the century.There is no north-south division in our church.We are majority in all over the world except Eranakulam district.We don't need your approval.We know to take care our self.Colonial era is over.We are in a free world.
" Paradesikalude adhikarakkodi arabikkadalil.Munnottu munnottu munnotte."

Innocent said...

Anita,
Just watch we will also make this a big celebration better than you guys when our next Catholicos take charge. We will bring our Prince Patriarch HH Zakka Iwas and we will show our strength and then you guys will realise who we are. Could you invite any foreign church heads for the ceremony. Just wait and see when our time comes, we will have many Bishops from Antioch alone and around from the world to ordain our next Catholicose. Antiochyaee marakoolaaaaaa

Mohan said...

INDIAN ORTHODOX SABHAYUDA PUTHIYA IDAYANU ALLAVIDHA MANGALANGALUM NARUNNU.

lajy said...

INNONCENT
YOUR WRTING ARTICLE WHICH DOES NOT HAVE ANY LOGIC. ALL WAYS JACOBITES KNOW FOR UNLOGIC THEORY THERE NO SUPRISES IN YOUR ARTICLE
SUPREME COURT WILL NEVER GIVE JUDGEMENT IN FAVOUR OF FOREIGN HEAD. PLEASES WRITE ARTICLE IN MALNAKRA SYRIA VOICES EDITER HAS REQUESTED HATRED ARTICLES & FALSES STORY YOU HAVE CHANCES TO GET SHAVILER POST.

Innocent said...

Who wants Suprement Court verdict. We don't care. As per the 1958 court verdict we supposedly became one. We waited for 12 years because we can't break the agreement and that is how the famous bull regarding St.Thomas came in. So in short we will always find a way around to get out of the Supreme court verdict. You guys don't understand our supreme head is our Holy Patriarch sitting on the throne of St.Peter our Prince Patriarch HH Zaka Iwas and we will only follow his order. That is our Supreme court.

Innocent said...

You know something. Our Thomas Bava has been asked by our Patriarch not to travel abroad.See what Bava is doing. He is obeying. Will you guys do this. Your Bava have to find out the whereabouts of your Metrans from their drivers.
This is the difference. You want law and order in your church, simply follow us. You people say our Thomas Bva always break the rule. Why because our Patriarch has not told him. If our Patriarch had to tell him he will stop. But our Patriarch knows whatever Thomas Bava is doing is right. so there is no question of he stopping his activities.

lajy said...

Dear innocent ,
Iam not suprised by your comment .You guys says that if forget your mother you will not forget your Patriarch betraying mother land not obey rules of the country not big to you .What you have said can you tell before media that you dont belive india country rules & law.So that India govt can consider jacobites as second grade citizen benfits now your enjoying from the country it will go the right person who love theses country.

Innocent said...

Aneethiyude mamonney kondu ningal snehithan marey undakki kolvin..........

NITHIN said...

http://theorthodoxchurch.info/blog/articles/2010/11/%E2%80%9C-the-catholicose-and-the-catholicate%E2%80%9D/

Samji said...

Dear Innocent
Can you say you are are always Just and Right before God!When H.B Thomas Group did Violecne and Killing where are you people!Hiding Criminals in Church and using money collected for poor people or family of widow being cheated will be called as What?

Ebenezar said...

Dear All
This Babu Paul can write anything as he is retired from civil service and he has lot of time!As an administrator he could n't get a reward from Govt.
He should remember that 1934 constituition is the bylaw and when JSOC took MathewsII to court to conduct Election of Managing Committee What happened!Why then JSOC formed society in 2002?
He is a friend of H.H. Zaka I and he want to prove it to Public he can write anything he wish!He also forgetting that priest hood of Jesus is Not through St.peter alone or his successors in Church!

sherlin said...

babupaulinu vattayo.Puthya Bavade peru Baselios Marthoma Paulose !! ennanallo

eldhose said...

Ethrayum nanam ellatha oru samudhayam ayi poyallo ningal.kalam chaytha malankara yuda prakasha gopuram BASELIOUS POULOSE 2 nda namam parayan polum yogyatha ellatha oralku a peru kodukan thonnicha sathan nda makan arayalum avanu nallathu varatte.annittu angeru adhyamayi chayyan purapettatho mulamthuruthy pallyil athikramichu kayaran.poorvikan marku pallikalil poyi edichu kayaran ulla physical fitness ellathathu kondayirikam avaruda kazhuthinu nare kathi kanichu ethu nadiyeduthathu. anthayalum thankal chayan erikunna alla karyangalum malamthuruthy sambhavam pole mahavijayam ayitheratte annu ashamsikunnu. BASELIOUS THOMAS PRADHAMAN NEENAL VAZHATTE.MORAN MOR IGNATHIYOS SAKHA PRADHAMAN NENNAL VAZHATTE.

Kiran said...

Dear Eldhose,
It was this Prakashagopuram u r talking abt who played a major role in splitting the church after 1958 unity, because HG wasnt willing to work as assistant metropolitan under HH Augen I(then mar themothios). I would not like to make further comment abt a departed Bishop,just said the above because of ur very immature language...

Innocent said...

Eldhose,
Why can't we file a case against these people for using the name of our Late Bava Paulose II. Meanwhile, Who was Bava Paulose I. Can't get a clue who is this? Can you please reply

Ebenezar said...

Dear Eldhose
Do not talk about your nonsense here!When you talk about Ignatius,you people forget about Ignatius! You people forget about Yakkob Burdhana! You People Forget Apostle Peter! All your Heirarchy using such names of early saints do not have no eligiblity, no merits/qualification to use such saintly names!H.H. Marthoma Paulose II are better than your H.B Thomas!H.B. Thomas1 do not have any merits/eligibility for such a name!furthermore H.B. ThomasI is only a Mafriana of Arch dioceses of SOC in Damascus!
read malankara Sabhadeepam about it then make comments!

Innocent said...

Our Thomas Pradhaman Bava is not using the name Marthoma because if he uses then it will be double superlative, so he is happy with one that is why. Otherewise he would have been Called Marthoma Thomas Pradhaman which doesn't sound well.

Vayaliparamban said...

Which is more near to Bar ethoo's residence - Kuthiravattum or Poojapura. It is high time stop treating him at home and shift him to some mental aslyum where he should feel at home. He blames Thomas Pradhaman for not making him Chief Secretary. Does that mean that people who select people for such positions doesn't have anything in their head to understand a person. Anything you talk he has a Patriarch and a Zakka in it. How can such a fanatic ever be considered to a position like chief secretary. We still have some sensible people in Kerala to take note of such characters I believe

Diljo said...

Dear Mr.Babu Paul, hope you are a person who look forward for Crist. This is too cheap. We Wish Most respected H.H Baselios Mathoma Paulose II prayers and all wishes.

Reju said...

Itrayum Nananavum Manavum illattha thomas pradamate piniyalukalodu Njagal orthodox karku sahathapameyullu, pattumengil oru chevelior padavi koodi babu paulinu kodukkan Damaskasil mathram oru kunju aramanayulla verum 5000 yiram perude patriarkeezaya zkha bavayodu parayuka ,Parisuddha Daivamathave Ivarodu porukkan daivaputhranodu apeshikkaname . Jai Jai Catholicose.

varkey said...

So from when have Babu paul and his anthiocene diocese in malankara started recognising the 1934 Constitution and abiding by the 1995 Supreme Court judgement. Theetos thirumeni aano yee manammatathinte karyam?
-Varkey, Kalyan.

Vayaliparamban said...

Innocent,
I would suggest the name HIS HOLINESS BASELIOS KEPHA PETER THOMAS PRADHAMAN CATHOLICOSE MAPHRIYANA for your Vava. Does it not sound more realistic and more weightage

george said...

Prayers & wishes to Thirumeni( H H. Baselios Marthoma Paulos II)

George Jacob
Oman

Geo said...

Mr. Babu Paul, so far we were thinking that, you were an educated person having some idea about the church and related things. before making a comment on 1934 constitution, atleast you spend some time to read it carefully. it was framed and formed by genious, clever people of MALANKARA. it is not like something fabricated and manipulated in 2002 for the puthen soceity. mind it..

in the 1934 constitution, point No. 101, heading: PATRIARCH:
""THE MALANKARA CHURCH SHALL RECOGNIZE THE PATRIARCH, IF CANONICALY CONSECRATED WITH THE COOPERATION OF THE CATHOLICOSE.""

Mr. Babu Paul, the present Patriarch is not at all recognized by Malankara church. The supreme court has approved the position of Patriarch, not HH ZAKHA Iwas the person..

Again in 1934 constitution, point No. 114. ""IF ANYONE SHALL BE CONSECRATED AS CATHOLICOSE HE SHALL BE ELECTED TO THAT OFFICE BY THE ASSOCIATION. IF SUCH PERSON IS APPROVED BY THE EPISCOPAL SYNOD, THE SYNOD SHALL CONSECRATE THE PERSON AS CATHOLICOSE. IF THERE BE A PATRIARCH RECOGNIZED BY THE MALANKARA CHURCH THE PATRIARCH SHALL BE INVITED AND IF THE PATRIARCH ARRIVES HE SHALL AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE SYNOD CONSECRATE THE CATHOLICOSE WITH THE COOPERATION OF THE SYNOD"".

It is crystal clear. The puthen soceity, and its leadership cannot even dream about such a constitution. each and every word was framed with some aim, anticipation.
Without knowing anything how Bar Etho *?+x##* Babu Paul can make such a idiotic comment, i think he is trying to become their next sabha secretary. Enthenkilum Pani vende.

Thomas said...

LET ANYONE SAY ANYTHING,WHO CARE?THE SAME 1934 CONSTITUTION APPROVED BY THE SUPREME COURT SAYS THE CONDITIONS FOR A PATRIARCH TO BE ACCEPTED BY THE MALANKARA CHURCH.THE SUPREME COURT SAID MANY OTHER THINGS IN THE VERDICT.DO THE JACOBITES HEED AND FOLLOW THEM?DID THE SUPREME COURT ASKED THE PATRIARCH TO CREATE ONE MORE CATHILICATE IN MALANKARA?BECAUSE OF THE DIVISIVE ACTIONS BY THE PATRIARCH HE BECAME ' A COW IN THE BOOK 'FOR THE ORTHODOX CHURCH.

THOMAS KUTTIKANDATHIL.

sampariyarathu said...

Dear All
As a retired Civil service guy Babu Paul has no active work to do! Now he is engaging in Church politics as he was a total failure in his career!Instead of bringing peace in Church he is trying to create unrest and disharmony! I doubt wehther he is a true Christian and whether he has read all clauses relevant to Constituition!
Moreover who is he to critisize MOSC? when Supreme court verdict came in 1996 where was he?Why couldn't he try to negotiate for peace when Supreme Catholicose AARAM I visited Malankara?

Ebenezar said...

Dear All
VS(nireekshakan) says about True Syrian Church,which one is that?In Malankara there is no SATHYA SURIANI SABHA!whatever they have now a soceity which is governed by SOC of Damascus!there is no truth followed by JSOC in Malankara!even SOC heirarchy not following the truth!always they crucify the "truth"! let them first of all seek and worship the 'truth'

CHEERAN said...

JAI JAI CATHOLICOS, MARTHOMA SIMHASANAM NEENAL VASHATEE

CHEERAN said...

JAI JAI CATHOLICOS

CHEERAN said...

JAI JAI CATHOLICOS

M.M.Oommen said...

Dr Babu Paul has been publicity hungry all through his official career. Also some news papers had been more than willing to give him all the publicity he wanted. Now, after his retirement he is still striving to be in the lime light some how. His hunger for power and position has made him try his luck in politics also – Remember his stint as a sympathiser of BJP. It did not work out. Even in the affairs of the church he tried sailing on two boats simultaneously (രണ്ടു വള്ളത്തില്‍ കാലു വെച്ച് ). By his ridiculous arguments and writings abut Parmala, Ayodhya etc he is only exposing himself. Thank God he didn’t become Chief Secretary in Kerala. He blames Thomas Pradhaman for him not becoming the Chief Secretary. If that is correct, it appears that the primary school drop out had better sense and also concern for the affairs of the state.
I do not know why some people still refer to him as ‘Dr Babu Paul IAS’. He is only IAS with “Retired” in brackets now. The IAS is neither an Academic Qualification nor a licence to make foolish comments, acting as if the IAS (Retired) is know all, even on matters where the learned Judges of Supreme Court of the country had passed their judgement after much deliberation.
A boy asked me once “What is ബാര്‍ ഈത്തോ ബ്രീത്തോ ?”. I told him that in our context it doesnot mean anything more than “ബാറില്‍ കയറി ‘വീത്തി’ യാലും ‘ഈത്തോ’(Easyയുടെ മറുഭാഷ)ആയി ബ്രീത്ത്‌ അനലയസരില്‍ രക്ഷ പെടുന്നവന്‍”

M.M.Oommen said...

Dr Babu Paul has been publicity hungry all through his official career. Also some news papers had been more than willing to give him all the publicity he wanted. Now, after his retirement he is still striving to be in the lime light some how. His hunger for power and position has made him try his luck in politics also – Remember his stint as a sympathiser of BJP. It did not work out. Even in the affairs of the church he tried sailing on two boats simultaneously (രണ്ടു വള്ളത്തില്‍ കാലു വെച്ച് ). By his ridiculous arguments and writings abut Parmala, Ayodhya etc he is only exposing himself. Thank God he didn’t become Chief Secretary in Kerala. He blames Thomas Pradhaman for him not becoming the Chief Secretary. If that is correct, it appears that the primary school drop out had better sense and also concern for the affairs of the state.
I do not know why some people still refer to him as ‘Dr Babu Paul IAS’. He is only IAS with “Retired” in brackets now. The IAS is neither an Academic Qualification nor a licence to make foolish comments, acting as if the IAS (Retired) is know all, even on matters where the learned Judges of Supreme Court of the country had passed their judgement after much deliberation.
A boy asked me once “What is ബാര്‍ ഈത്തോ ബ്രീത്തോ ?”. I told him that in our context it doesnot mean anything more than “ബാറില്‍ കയറി ‘വീത്തി’ യാലും ‘ഈത്തോ’(Easyയുടെ മറുഭാഷ)ആയി ബ്രീത്ത്‌ അനലയസരില്‍ രക്ഷ പെടുന്നവന്‍”

Vayaliparamban said...

Since Babu Kuzhimuttam doesn’t have IAS, he knows to write plain truth known to each and every one in this land of Kerala. So definitely appealing than the brainless IAS’s complicating, confusing and chaotic article. A rare breed out of already messed up fanatical ‘Christian’ society.
A person who has supposedly gained IAS (I wonder did the Antiochian Patriarch recommended this position for this man to work as his mouthpiece) doesn’t show any respect for the law of the land and keeps on with his Patriarch parayanam. A wolf with sheep’s cloak. Even if the IOC succumbs to the Patriarch, this man will still find fault with IOC. Appears somebody has performed some black magic on this man to become so.
Since Thomas Pradhaman & Co. were close to the left, this man became close to BJP, a religious based political party. This is his ethics. So what he writes should be measured in those lines.
Personally if peace prevails in our church, I would prefer to have Thomas Pradhaman in our church than this Babu Adhaman to whom everything is the Patriarch. The respect we have for the position of IAS has been tarnished by this Adhaman.

Mathew said...

Let me pen down following,

1.According to 1934 constitution, Malankara church is a division of Orthdox syrian Church headed by Patrarch of Antioch. Its a straight forward statment and doesn’t require any interpretation.Important point to be noted is, this constitution was drafted and approved at time when factional disputes were in its peak.

2. According to 1995 supreme court verdict ‘ Patriarch’s never enjoyed temporal control over malankara and it was not at all a matter of dispute in century long litigations.

2a. Same supremecourt verdict says,Patriach’s supremacy has come to a ‘vanishing point’ BUT all the same he (H.H.Patriarch) remains the spiritual head of church and he is the spiritual superior to catholicose.

3. Above statement is crystal clear from prayers and readings of Sacramnents like Mooro Consecration, Church consecration, Holy Qurbana and Holy Ordinations. (Even though we have altered some to our convenience).

4. ‘Mathopadesa Sarangal’ written by Vattaseril Thirumeni, reaffirms the same in a chapter about ‘Priesthood’.The supreme high authority of priesthood is Moran Mor Ignatius, the Patriarch of Antioch. (Its very significant that, Vattasseril Thirumeni was a strong opponent of then Patriarch and his supporters.)

5.Please don't come up with silly arguments. Indian Government is headed by Prime Minister. Does any one require Supreme court to issue a judgement that Prime minister is Manmohan Singh.

George Joseph said...

Why should there be a system of retirement in government establishments? Because after a certain age, the person may not be good enough to contribute constructivly. But even after this age, some may remain intellectually active. Mr Babu Paul feels he belongs to the second category. However now he has proved that he belongs to the first. When you comment on something documnented elsewhere, such comments are to be made only after taking pain to study such documents first hand. On the other hand, if one makes comments on the basis of letters or articles made by others out of blind excitement, one will cut a sorry figure as it happened now.I hope, Mr Babu Paul will excercise more care in future not to degrade himself before the public. Again, in our mission to spread the GOOD NEWS to all generations, how does it matter if HH Paoluse Baselius is the first or second or the tenth? Let us use our energy to serve Christ and his images we have with us having no shelter, no food , no companions.
###George Joseph###

Innocent said...

Dear Mathew,
What is your point? Can't understand.

Vayaliparamban said...

Read the news Almayavedi is organising some disrupption in the meeting were Babu Paul is invited as a speaker to honor our Valiya Bava. Please don't indulge in any such things. We should understand the nature of the man called Babu Paul. He doesn't know what he is talking or who know's he may be taking some royalty from people who are using his name and photo to publish sensational news items. Just ignore him. That is the best we can. If he had to hold to what he wrote, he must have never accepted the invitiation. So in all probability he must be not knowing all that has been written with his name. You can't rule out this possibility. Request MTV to record the proceedings please

Geevarughese Valliaveettil said...

It is so sad and shameful that the people who are ignorant of the history of the Malankara Sabha are posting comments in this forum. I feel pity about those people like Innocent and Ebenezar who are totally brain washed by their handlers (Paappaanmar, who control them like the Elephant handlers, who use the Elephants to do the dirty works) and use them with out telling them the truth or teaching them the history. I have a feeling that these innocent people will, one day, turn against their handlers like a mad elephant (Madam pottiya aanaye pol).

By the way, our new Bava, His Holiness Baselios Paulose II is not named after H. B. Baselios Paulose. As far as the Malakara Orthodox church is concerned, the so called "Shretta Bava" of the Jacobite faction was not even "His Beatitude". He was H.G. Paulose mar Phlilexinos who betrayed the Malankara Sabha, like Judas Iskarioth, for personal gain. We never name our Holy Father after such a Bishop.

Our new Bava is Paulos II because the name of the First Catholicose in Malankara (after the catholicate was relocated to Malankara in 1912) was His Holiness Baselios Paulose I, who hailed from Kandanadu Diocese (Murimattathil Bava).

It clearly reveals the lack of knowlge of our blogger, Innocent who claims that he is from Piravom area and never heard of the First Catholicose in Malankara (who is from Murimattathil family which is only a few Kilometers away from Piravom).
Dear Innocent and Ebanezar, please do not reveal your ignorance by writing nonsense in this forum. By the way, your so called "Shretta Bava" is not the supreme head of any church and never be able to use the title "His Holiness". No matter how many other factions in Kerala try to steal the name "Catholicose" there is only one Catholicose, who is the Supreme Head of the original Saint Thomas Christians in India, who can use the title "His Holiness" and that Bava is currently, H.H. Baselios Marthomma Paulose II of the Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church.

Geevarughese Valliaveettil said...

Dear Ebanezar,
I made a mistake in my writing. I used your name accidently when I wrote the blog. I mixed up your name with Eldhos. I am so sorry and appologize for the mistake. Please accept my appology and forgive me.
Dear all,
In my blog I meant "Innocent and Eldhos" and not Ebanezar who wrote the reply to Eldhos very sensibly. My criticism was directed towards the nonsenses written by Innocent and Eldhos.
Once again my appology.
George Geevarughese
Edmonton, Canada

Joe said...

Very interesting to read the articles by Fr. MO John and Dr. Babu Paul. I think, Fr. John has been almost fully answered by the article of Dr. Babu Paul when he says that the full name of Catholicos is "Baselious Marthoma Paulos II".

Dr. Babu Paul raises a number of questions; but in my humble opinion, there are logical mistakes(leave alone the facutal mistakes) in many of the points which he makes. For example he says the previous Jacobite Catholicos has been named HB Baselious Paulos II, since he came after a Catholicos in Tigris with the same name. But the Tigris Catholicos was not "Baselious Paulos" but only Paulos. And if what Fr. MO John says is true,(my knowledge of theses sort of church history is limited and I fully depend on the articles by Fr. John as well as Dr. B.Paul for it; I am only after the logical mistakes) there had been 3 Catholicos in Tigris with the name Paulos, and for that reason, the Jacobite Catholicos should have been a simple HB Paulos IV, which he was not. The Jacobites' claim is that he was "Baselious Paulos II", and there was only one "Baselious Paulos" before him and that was "Murimattathil Bava". So whose decendent "HB Baselious Paulos II", (the Jacobite Catholicos) was claiming himself to be ? Fot this reason and for other reasons which I am not explaining here (to keep this posting as short as possible), the name of Catholicos of the East (HH Baselious Marthoma Paulos II) is fully justified and correct.

rinsam2002 said...

Dear ALL
This former administrator cannot be reliable Christian man!how can he say Abdulla Partriarch was not greedy?Was he or his forefathers were Abdulla Partriarch's secretary here in Malankara? He is only trying to politrick the whole Church issue(by making allegations/baseless stories) to make him a living saint and glory for himself!Babu Paul better leave your Politics in MOSC! Beware of these foxes who are like lambs!

sam said...

Dear All
What ever book, written by Vattasseril Thirumeni Mathopadeshasarangal were written before 1934,based on his teaching experiance as a malpan in Seminary!Christ never appointed somebody as a supreme head in his church on earth!people should clearly learn and understand 1934 constituition!The Prime Minister of India cannot be Prime Minister of Pakistan!MOSC is independant autocephalas Church not integral part of SOC in Damascus!MOSC is for Malankara Christians/Nazranis!There were no universal synod met recognised SOC partriarch as Universal!Also SOC Partriarch has not been appointed/elected as Partriarch for All The East by any synod!The Partriarch of Antich has only his see(administrative province) in the eastern part of Roman Empire only!

Innocent said...

Dear Geevarughese,
Your Murimattathil Bava was never accepted by our Patriarch. Infact my grandfather used to say, after Murimattahil Bava, if Kuttikkatil Athanasios Valiya Bava was made Catholicos, this issue of partition would have never take place in the church. You guys never respected him and gave him prominence. So you reap what you sow.
Even after peace in 1958 our Thomas Bava when he had the desire to become a Bishop your Theophilos Thirumeni stood against that. I have heard from my grandfather saying ‘C.M.Thomas Catholica pakshakaranna’. In short you made many of your own people to ditch you. See now C.G., M.O., many will follow.
Anyway, we are happy to have C.M.Thomas as our Shreshta Bava. He knows how to lead our church single handedly. If he was such a bad man, do you think so many people would be behind him? How many Bishops and Priests he has ordained. Can anybody break his record?
Some say people are plotting against him under the leadership of Babu Paul and convincing Patriarch to ask him to step down from his position. But if that ever take place, we know how to make another Patriarch in Antioch. Personally I know the feelings of our Bava Thirumeni. He has been asked now not to go abroad to meet our faithful. First I thought this was because Patriarch wanted to take care of the health of our Bava. But now I understand even his successors are not allowed to go abroad. If that is the case we have to sort out this issue. How can our church run without money from abroad? We have to built the Parumala pally. Ofcourse there is phone. But we may have to now heavily depend on Viswasasamrakshakan and SOCM to generate funds.

sam said...

Dear All
This former Administrator BAR EETHO have no common sense!He says that by adding/including name of St.Thomas in Thubden what SOC partriarch ZakaI did?If Zaka I was Honest and sincere,he would have first apologised for the mistakes/heretic teachings his preceeding partriarch Yakoob III did!Again He could have nulled/voided the alleged/unjustified excommunication of Augen I and synod By Yakoob III.
morever if he is true in action he could not have consecrated H.B. Thomas I(Thomas mar dionyasius)
as Mafriana for India/Malankara!
When Zaka I was Elected and cosecrated as Soc head,he did not inform MOSC about it!How can this Bar Eetho justify the actions of Zaka I?Bar Eetho Babu Paul, better stop your nonsenses and try to become a true christian rather than politricking!

Malankara Orthodox TV said...

A Letter to MOSC PRO

Dear Elias Sir,

I saw your press statement with regard to the senseless statement made by Babu Paul in Mangalam, that we have violated the 1934 constitution while consecrating our Catholicos. Has the man ever seen this constitution or bothered to read it once with his senses. What luck our state didn't make him the Chief Secretary. Thanks to HB Thomas Pradhaman, if at all he did something in preventing that happen.

This man is trying to hide the dissentions taking place in his faction due to the recent orders by the Patriarch and the Parumala episode. Otherwise, as you have stated, did we bother to invite the Patriarch for the consecration of the last 4 catholicoses. So what is this new thing all about? Did he have his senses back? The crooked mentality is displayed in this man, 'swantham veedu kathumbol, vallavanteyum veetilley vazha vettukka'. Hope you understood.

Sir, I would have appreciated if you would have sent him a notice in your capacity asking him to withdraw the statement he made in the paper and apologise to the public for giving such misleading information. Afterall with your experience and from the past record of this man called Babu Paul, you should know him by now. Meanwhile, can you show me a single person from that faction who is known to make sensible statements? Then why do we bother with such things. In future I would appreciate if you take up such matters with the Journalist association for publishing misleading news items.

I understand this controversial character Babu Paul was invited to participate in the Navathy celebrations of Valiya Bava Thirumeni at Pathanapuram yesterday.. What message does this communicate?

Meanwhile, I do 100% agree with Rev.Fr.Johns Abraham Konattu's suggestion with regard to the peace initiatives. However, can we try and work out the formula that was successfully worked in Malabar diocese to the rest of the dioceses where we have issues with this faction and try and reduce the number of cases to the minimum. I am sure people at the Parish level will be ready to negotiate. In how many churches have we got dispute? Atleast can't we use theses churches on a shared basis to begin with.

Once we arrive at an agreement, please ensure that the people who are with us do follow our constitution and abide the same.

I am happy to see the developments taking place at the Church Head Quarters. I pray almighty to give you all the necessary guidance to support our Bava Thirumeni who will take this church to a new horizon.

With prayers

Philip Ayyamplackal, Auckland

Malankara Orthodox TV said...

Dear Elias Sir,



I saw your press statement with regard to the senseless statement made by Babu Paul in Mangalam, that we have violated the 1934 constitution while consecrating our Catholicos. Has the man ever seen this constitution or bothered to read it once with his senses. What luck our state didn't make him the Chief Secretary. Thanks to HB Thomas Pradhaman, if at all he did something in preventing that happen.



This man is trying to hide the dissentions taking place in his faction due to the recent orders by the Patriarch and the Parumala episode. Otherwise, as you have stated, did we bother to invite the Patriarch for the consecration of the last 4 catholicoses. So what is this new thing all about? Did he have his senses back? The crooked mentality is displayed in this man, 'swantham veedu kathumbol, vallavanteyum veetilley vazha vettukka'. Hope you understood.



Sir, I would have appreciated if you would have sent him a notice in your capacity asking him to withdraw the statement he made in the paper and apologise to the public for giving such misleading information. Afterall with your experience and from the past record of this man called Babu Paul, you should know him by now. Meanwhile, can you show me a single person from that faction who is known to make sensible statements? Then why do we bother with such things. In future I would appreciate if you take up such matters with the Journalist association for publishing misleading news items.



I understand this controversial character Babu Paul was invited to participate in the Navathy celebrations of Valiya Bava Thirumeni at Pathanapuram yesterday.. What message does this communicate?



Meanwhile, I do 100% agree with Rev.Fr.Johns Abraham Konattu's suggestion with regard to the peace initiatives. However, can we try and work out the formula that was successfully worked in Malabar diocese to the rest of the dioceses where we have issues with this faction and try and reduce the number of cases to the minimum. I am sure people at the Parish level will be ready to negotiate. In how many churches have we got dispute? Atleast can't we use theses churches on a shared basis to begin with.



Once we arrive at an agreement, please ensure that the people who are with us do follow our constitution and abide the same.



I am happy to see the developments taking place at the Church Head Quarters. I pray almighty to give you all the necessary guidance to support our Bava Thirumeni who will take this church to a new horizon.



With prayers

Philip Ayyamplackal, Auckland

Samji said...

Dear Mathew
Who is supreme authority of Priesthood?Dont make or utter senseless /baseless comments!Christ is the Supreme Or High Priest! Jesus gave his Priesthood to 12 apostles!Can you quote from bible that priesthood is converged in Christian Church through St.Peter or his successors alone?St Peter himself called as an elder among other elders of early Church!He never called himself supreme authority or Supreme Priest in Christ's Church on earth!

Also refer the Original Hoodayo Canon regarding the rights and previlages of Partriarch in Catholicate's see affairs!SOC partriarch do not have have any authority either to suspend or excommunicate ,the Catholicose or the synod of catholicose unilatterly!The First 32 Persian Church Catholicose were not under any authority of Syrian Partriarch in Antioch!in A.D.628 when Mar Morusso became Mafriana of Antioch Partriarch,the Persian Catholicate were restablished in Thigris! The St.Thomas throne of Persia did not originate from Antioch!

Samji said...

Dear All
When Elias III Partriarh died at Majinikkara, Vattasseril Thirumeni wet to Majinakkara and requested them to entombL/L H .H. Elias III body at Oldseminary Kottayam.Those people surrounding the body there refused that request and Vattasseril Thirumeni went back to Kottayam!As per Hoodaya Canon when A Partriarch dies at the see of Catholicose his body to be entombed a place where Catholicose are being entombed or Vice versa When A Cathilocose dies at the see of Partriarch,the body of Catholicose to be entombed where partriarchs are being entombed! Moreover Vattseeril Thirumeni also wrote to varius Antiochean/Syrian Bishops that their Synod has to invite Catholicose in Malankara during the Consecration/enthronement of New Partriarch after the demise of Elias III Partriarch!However the Antiochean/Syrian Synod did not invite catholicose of malankara during enthronement/consecration of New Partiarch in Antioch/Syria by then as per Hoodayo Canon! Babu Paul(retired IAS) or Jacobite heirarchy should also remember that rather than try to ridicule our present Cathoicose Baselios Marthoma Paulose III consecration!

appans said...

Malangara orthodox sabhayude.marthomasleehayude simhasanathil aroodanayirikkunna pithave neenal vazhuka...joemon.kaviyoor&family