This Article does not need any /deserve comments as this is in appropriate at this time.First of all MOSC heirarchy failed to carry out its Responsiblities/ failed to take preventive measures agaisnt Moosa Mar Severios for his current action.The editor of Malankara Sabha is the personal assiststant/manager To H.H. Catholicose knew all the dramtic incidents behind Consecration of mor Goorgan as well as his activities etc."Poya Vellathinu kattayittitu prayojanamilla"!
Zacharia Mar Aprem മെത്രാച്ചന്‍ നിഴല്‍ യുദ്ധമാണു നടത്തുന്നത്. വിശ്വാസ സമൂഹത്തോട് അദ്ദേഹം നടത്തുന്ന ആഹ്വാനം എന്താണു് ലക്ഷ്യമാക്കുന്നത്? സഭയില്‍ ഭിന്നിപ്പുണ്ടാക്കാനല്ലേ ഇതിടയാക്കുക? അച്ചടക്കരാഹിത്യം കാണിച്ചെന്ന് മെത്രാച്ചന്‍ വിരല്‍ ചൂണ്ടുന്ന മേല്‍‍പട്ടക്കാര്‍ ആരൊക്കെയാണ് ? എപ്പിസ്കോപ്പല്‍ സുന്നഹദോസിലെ മറ്റുമെത്രാപ്പോലീത്തമാര്‍ക്കെതിരെ കലാപത്തിനാഹ്വാനം ചെയ്യുന്നത് തന്നെ അച്ചടക്കരാഹിത്യമല്ലേ? എപ്പിസ്കോപ്പല്‍ സുന്നഹദോസ് ഇതുസംബന്ധിച്ചു കൈക്കൊണ്ടിട്ടുള്ള തീരുമാനങ്ങളെ വിശ്വാസ സമൂഹം എതിര്‍ക്കണമെന്നാണോ മെത്രാച്ചന്‍ പറയുന്നത്? സഭയുടെ മുഖപത്രത്തില്‍ മുഖപ്രസംഗമായി ഈ ആഹ്വാനം വന്നത് അനുചിതമായി.
The subject editorial is in bad taste, serving no purpose. The spirit underlying this article is anti Christian. Sorry, a Bishop should show greater maturity.
Why we worry about the other church. The reason is really about the money and power. The present group had feared about to loose from them. The article itself is giving a bad message and not upto the standard. If this article from a common man it is ok but how this type of article from a bishop and how it is published. The writer itself knows about the whole story of the same a big supporter for the ordination to destory the Jacobite church. Then why all are worried about the same also why not give punishment to the bishops who made the ordination. Now church also like political party and they thing all public are donkeys.
Respected thirumeni,we dont need anymore divisions on this subject.we must stand behind his holiness. Some thoughts which thirumeni was shared is appreciable at the same time we mustnot crucify the other two thirumenies regarding this issues anymore.we dont want anybody to stay from our church .i may be unknown about the politics in the church between thirumenis.By posting that editorial thirumeni has started an unwanted debate over the issue.My honest request is that we must stand behind his holiness and at the sametime stop crucifying two thirumeniies.During this time we must show our unity.
Jesus loves every one and forgives every one. By a symbolic usage, Dr Thirumeni has referred Moses Gurgan as "Pannikuttam". Too far from what Christ wanted to teach.
Thirumeni, please spend some time understanding what is the far reaching effect of this?
Jesus also instructed - not even call some one a "fool".
There were many a quotings that could have been quoted in this context. But if that had to be quoted, the Editor himself must have fallen into that category. 2 Timothy Ch:3 was apt for the occassion, but except for His Holiness Baselios Marthoma Didymos the rest of the synod members will fall into any one of the following cateogry.
"There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them. They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over weak-willed women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, always learning but never able to acknowledge the truth. Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these men oppose the truth—men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected. But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.
I have read that H.G. Youhanon Mar Militios Thirumeny explained that H.G. does not know H.G. Gurgan and his plan. The explanation is excellent and Mar Militios Thirumeny can do little more to make H.G.’s stand in this matter.
H.G. Dr. Thomas Mar Athanasios and H.G.Youhanon Mar Militios Thirumeny ordinate Mar Gurgan as a Bishop. At the time of the ordination the candidate is taking an oath that he will obey and follow the teachings and policies of the High priest who ordinates him. So if Mar Gurgan did anything wrong then H.G. Mar Athanasius and Mar Militias Thirumenies can ask an explanation to Mar Gurgan and if Mar Gurgan did any mistakes then Thirumeny can bring a petition to the Holy Synod to issue disciplinary action against Mar Gurgan or even Thirumeny itself can issue the disciplinary action “Kalpana” and that will make more clear about the stand of H.G. Youhanon Mar Militios Thirumeny. Hope H.G. Youhanon Mar Militios Thirumeny will consider this. Charly V. Padanilam, Houston, TX.
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This Article does not need any /deserve comments as this is in appropriate at this time.First of all MOSC heirarchy failed to carry out its Responsiblities/ failed to take preventive measures agaisnt Moosa Mar Severios for his current action.The editor of Malankara Sabha is the personal assiststant/manager To H.H. Catholicose knew all the dramtic incidents behind Consecration of mor Goorgan as well as his activities etc."Poya Vellathinu kattayittitu prayojanamilla"!
Zacharia Mar Aprem മെത്രാച്ചന്‍ നിഴല്‍ യുദ്ധമാണു നടത്തുന്നത്. വിശ്വാസ സമൂഹത്തോട് അദ്ദേഹം നടത്തുന്ന ആഹ്വാനം എന്താണു് ലക്ഷ്യമാക്കുന്നത്? സഭയില്‍ ഭിന്നിപ്പുണ്ടാക്കാനല്ലേ ഇതിടയാക്കുക? അച്ചടക്കരാഹിത്യം കാണിച്ചെന്ന് മെത്രാച്ചന്‍ വിരല്‍ ചൂണ്ടുന്ന മേല്‍‍പട്ടക്കാര്‍ ആരൊക്കെയാണ് ? എപ്പിസ്കോപ്പല്‍ സുന്നഹദോസിലെ മറ്റുമെത്രാപ്പോലീത്തമാര്‍ക്കെതിരെ കലാപത്തിനാഹ്വാനം ചെയ്യുന്നത് തന്നെ അച്ചടക്കരാഹിത്യമല്ലേ? എപ്പിസ്കോപ്പല്‍ സുന്നഹദോസ് ഇതുസംബന്ധിച്ചു കൈക്കൊണ്ടിട്ടുള്ള തീരുമാനങ്ങളെ വിശ്വാസ സമൂഹം എതിര്‍ക്കണമെന്നാണോ മെത്രാച്ചന്‍ പറയുന്നത്? സഭയുടെ മുഖപത്രത്തില്‍ മുഖപ്രസംഗമായി ഈ ആഹ്വാനം വന്നത് അനുചിതമായി.
It is a repeat of the same politics which pushed HB Thomas 1 to split from us and form a new Church in 2002.
The subject editorial is in bad taste, serving no purpose. The spirit underlying this article is anti Christian. Sorry, a Bishop should show greater maturity.
Why we worry about the other church. The reason is really about the money and power. The present group had feared about to loose from them. The article itself is giving a bad message and not upto the standard. If this article from a common man it is ok but how this type of article from a bishop and how it is published. The writer itself knows about the whole story of the same a big supporter for the ordination to destory the Jacobite church. Then why all are worried about the same also why not give punishment to the bishops who made the ordination. Now church also like political party and they thing all public are donkeys.
Respected thirumeni,we dont need anymore divisions on this subject.we must stand behind his holiness.
Some thoughts which thirumeni was shared is appreciable at the same time we mustnot crucify the other two thirumenies regarding this issues anymore.we dont want anybody to stay from our church
.i may be unknown about the politics in the church between thirumenis.By posting that editorial thirumeni has started an unwanted debate over the issue.My honest request is that we must stand behind his holiness and at the sametime stop crucifying two thirumeniies.During this time we must show our unity.
Jesus loves every one and forgives every one. By a symbolic usage, Dr Thirumeni has referred Moses Gurgan as "Pannikuttam". Too far from what Christ wanted to teach.
Thirumeni, please spend some time understanding what is the far reaching effect of this?
Jesus also instructed - not even call some one a "fool".
There were many a quotings that could have been quoted in this context. But if that had to be quoted, the Editor himself must have fallen into that category.
2 Timothy Ch:3 was apt for the occassion, but except for His Holiness Baselios Marthoma Didymos the rest of the synod members will fall into any one of the following cateogry.
"There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them.
They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over weak-willed women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, always learning but never able to acknowledge the truth. Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these men oppose the truth—men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected. But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.
I have read that H.G. Youhanon Mar Militios Thirumeny explained that H.G. does not know H.G. Gurgan and his plan. The explanation is excellent and Mar Militios Thirumeny can do little more to make H.G.’s stand in this matter.
H.G. Dr. Thomas Mar Athanasios and H.G.Youhanon Mar Militios Thirumeny ordinate Mar Gurgan as a Bishop. At the time of the ordination the candidate is taking an oath that he will obey and follow the teachings and policies of the High priest who ordinates him. So if Mar Gurgan did anything wrong then H.G. Mar Athanasius and Mar Militias Thirumenies can ask an explanation to Mar Gurgan and if Mar Gurgan did any mistakes then Thirumeny can bring a petition to the Holy Synod to issue disciplinary action against Mar Gurgan or even Thirumeny itself can issue the disciplinary action “Kalpana” and that will make more clear about the stand of H.G. Youhanon Mar Militios Thirumeny. Hope H.G. Youhanon Mar Militios Thirumeny will consider this.
Charly V. Padanilam, Houston, TX.
The action taken by His Holiness against gurgon was after discussing with both Dr.Athanasios and Dr.Militios
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