Friday, June 4, 2010

മലങ്കര വര്‍ഗിസ് കേസ് അട്ടിമറീക്കപ്പെടുമോ?

മലങ്കര വര്‍ഗിസ് കേസ് അട്ടിമറീക്കപ്പെടുമോ?

67 comments:

Malankara Orthodox TV said...

Justice Hemayude Kodathiyil Alle Case. Abhaya Casinte Gathy Varathirunnal Bhagyam.

Philip said...

samshayam entha. Ithu daiwathintte swantha naddu. Thomachanalley thaaram!

tshaji69 said...

Why we are making always cases against Syrian churches, is it Christianity?
Shaji ,klottayam

Tom said...

@ Shaji
Someone killed a human being
Case will be in court, no matter which church or temple he belongs to.
No case related to this murder is run by the Church, its all run by his widow. Learn the case before you comment on it

rajanthomaskodiyattu said...

Varghese murder was planned and organised by some so called christians!It is not case against church or community.whoever the culpirits behind this murder should be punished by the Law.although it took some years to come into light about the criminals who was behind this murder,always thruth shall triumph!

thrikkunathu said...

orikkalum illa....athu malarppodikkaarante swapnam maathram....vyakthamaaya thelivukal und ellaathinum...evide vare pokum ennariyaalo......?oraal polum rakshappedilla..thelivusahitham ellathinem pidikkum....athu ethu thamburaan aanelum....we can wait.....!

mariamma said...

Whether it is Police,CBI or judge what they loose if some one is murdered and justice not done to the affected.It is the opportunity to mint money.
Kuttikandathil,Houston.

Philip said...

Dear Shaji,
Can we get you a glass of milk because you are so genuine. May be you can share it with the so called Syrians (Puthencruz society). These guys are after Malankara Varghese for so long and after almost a decade of attempts they finally killed him. We are just looking at one single episode of 2002 and ignoring the rest.
Meanwhile Thrikkunathu, all the best for your hope, but in this Devil's world, they will go unscratched, because the Kali was created by God himself. Heard about Paul George Muthoot? What is the status of this case? In Kerala 'No GRASS will work'.

Thrikkunnathe Seminary said...

@philip.....its not only a hope....wat we sais about this case is must going to happen...ee casinte full details purathuvaratte...appo ariyaam njangal paranjath sathyamaano ennu...?aarellam thadanjaalum ee case theliyikkappedum....ath Dhaivathinte Padhathiyaanu...!

4 said...

Rinu Vettiyar.....
theerchayayum ee case attimarikkkapedanulla sadhyatha 95% aanu ullathu, Ennu CBI -ye niyanthrikkunnathu Prime Minister aanu, Prime Minister Congress Leader aanu, Keralathil Puthenkurishu CPMne thalliparanju Congressinodu adukkunna kazhchayanu nammal kanunnathu, aduthu varunna electionukalil puthenkurishinte votebank congressine pinthunachal theerchayayum athinu congress Prathibhalam nalkendi varum Appol Thomas1 chodhikkunathu oru karyam mathramakum Malankara Varghese Case attimarikkanam ennullathu. Malankara Orthodox sabhayude bhagathu ninnum oru shakthamaya sammardham undo ennu samshayikendiyirikkunnu ee casinte avasanam Niraparadhikal shikshikkapedum, Thettu chaithavar aathmeeyathayude neethakkanmarayi vilasi nadakkum

Philip said...

Thrikkunnathu,
I appreciate your optimism, but let us see what will happen. Definitely God will judge all the culprits which we humans may not see.

eldo said...

i feel that thomas achan enthum cheyyan madikkula.athanavarude kudunb parambryam.

issac said...

seeing the charge sheet i feel nobody is going to get convicted. CBI have created a nice story. Convictions come on hard facts and evidences, not on stories and heresays

sajudaniel said...

Sister Abhaya case was taken up due to the pressure of Media. can we expect to get the same media attention in Malankara varghese case? I doubt. The church which is assciated with this case is well-known for media manipulation. But can they save from God's wrath? I doubt

sajudaniel said...

It was unfortunate that some Orthodox Church members burst crackers when chargesheet was filed against Fr Thekkekkara.

We learn to be civilised and keep fightinig for justice

sajudaniel said...

media is not within our reach. There was soem proposal to start a newspaper. I think we should not because it is not easy to run a newspaper with Church orientation. But we should make our presence in NEWS MAGAZINE as a weekly. It should be printed in high quality paper with advertisement and high price making it a profitable ventue. At the same time we should have a website for the magazine with 24*7 update. If we fix it as a low price stuff it is not going to be viable. Only people who really need a print should pay teh high price. For all others it is free on internet

sajudaniel said...

Whenever I read a statement of Thomas I Bava one verse which comes to mind is:

Romans: 1:18
(For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness)

sajudaniel said...

Media is has self-interests. If you look closely, you'll find that most media group is against Orthodox church for they strongly believe that Orthodox church as the patronage of Manoarama, a leading newspaper in Kerala. There is an element of jealousy involved here. Also, Jacobite church play a double edged game here. They threaten Manorama with circulation figures while crying before other newspaper groups that Orthodox Church is being backed by Manorama. This works very well to their advantage.

Also, they have the support of Catholic Church who wants this fight to go ahead. Catholic Church's aim is to eventually swallow both Orthodox and Jacobites. (Most media is unfriendly with catholics too)

Jacobite Church also get support from various church groups who do not want Orthodox Church to be established as a true Indian Church for they know that we are true inheritance of Sta thomas and also teh National church of India.

What we have to do:


1. Do not imitate the Catholic Church in establishing institutions because in the long run they'll face problems and find it difficult to manage. Those who know catholic church well understands that their statistics about growth etc are a pack of lies.

2. Stress our NATIONAL identity as the true National Indian Church (indigenous Church).

3. Jacobite groups with its short sighted policies will fade out in a few decades and eventually disintegrate. So have a gentle attitude towards them even when we fight court cases.
Most of Jacobite followers are innocent people who are misled by a handful of bad people.

4. 1. Continue to stand for ORTHODOXY and true values. Propagate Orthodoxy and theological truths. We shoudl also say about the deterioration of Churches in Western culture (Europe and America).

sajudaniel said...

If you look at the history of Churches, you can learn that just like in the case of nations, colonisation wil not work. This is going to happen with the catholic Churches in India which is under Rome. The situation is the same for Jacobite who proclaim Antiochian leadership in each breath. Antioch and Rome will have to say goodbye as Roem and Europe is fading out day by day and these local people finacially less dependent on foreigners. Now the fact is Rome and Antioch are depending on Indians for followers, clergy, nuns, money etc. So eventually these indian christians will be independent.

Philip said...

Dear Saju,
Even though I am for hanging all the culprits in this case and their accomplice, I am against bursting crackers as a mark of celebration. How can we celebrate the loss of Malankara Varghese. I am against all the evil doers whether they belong to ours or the fanatic group.

Thrikkunnathe Seminary said...

Thats right Mr Philp....

Vengavil M. Verghese said...

I am confident God Almighty will surely punish the criminal whom so ever it is. I wish and pray that justice is extended to the family.
Mathew Verghese
New York
June 7, 2010

Abded said...

Pandu pandu njangalokke kochile ee baloon oothi perupichu kalikkumaayirunnu....thombra vargheseinde case il enganeyengilum yakobaya sabhaye kudukkannam enna aavesham kaannumbol aa pazhaya kaalam ormichu poyi..

Ini ethra oothi perupichaalum kaattu therumbol...dim ! Allathe vere onnum sambhavikkan pokunnilla.

Philip said...

abdedinte comment vayichappol thonniyethu "enney kandall kinnum kattathannannu thonnumo" enna chodyammannu. Yakobayakar kinnamm mathramalla sakhsal kallannu kanjivachomarannu athum manjinikarayillum malaycurizillum puthencurisillum. Baloonokkey pottikathey sookshichu vacho, nammukavisham varum.

sajudaniel said...

Dear Abded
We have seen so much injustice done to us by the jacobite leaders. This is a fight seeking justice, not just 'kudukkan'. If you read the 'Book of Revelations' you can find souls who were tortured and killed while on earth crying to THE LORD for justice. is it not our duty to seek justice for their suffering ?

But evern when we fight fo rjustice never forget the path of righteousness for that only bring glory to us

sajudaniel said...

Before teh communist revolution in Poland, the Communists told workers not to work hard as that would benefit the capitalist oWNER. So they did not labour hard enough and broke teh MUTHALALY. Finally the Communists started ruling and asked the workers to toil hard and save the country. But the workers who learned the trick continued to work less and got the salary as it was their 'right'. One kilo of apple in Poland meant only 850 gram in actual weight. Finally communism fell.

If the Jacobites train their poeple to fight without principles, they will a heavy price. The policies of the Jacobite faction is short sighted

So be wise dear Orthodox brothers. Do not lose values even when you fight.

Abded said...

Philipachayo...kinnam kattum kore kallanmaarkku sadya orikiyum sheelamullathukondu anganeyokke thonnum.. genesinde gonnam.... manjapitham badhichavane patti oru chollundallo.....inganey kore undayilla vedi kaadadchu pottikam ennallaathe onnum varaan pokunilla...your problem is that you do not have any foothold in angamaly..you want to just exaggerate this issue to be in limelight..just like thomas paul ramban used his fathers dead body to enter kothamangalam cheriyapally.. Be honest to yourself.

Abded said...

Saju, can you list down all thoseinjustices my church has done to metran kakshis ? It is real news to me.. i can show a lot theother way round.

Philip said...

Saju,
I sincerly appreciate your words "Do not lose values even when you fight". This is what Christ taught us and we should follow it.
Regards

sajudaniel said...

A murder case is always a crime against the state. Even if Orthodox Church or Varghese's family has no compaint, it is the sole responsibility of the State to bring the criminals (whover they are!) to justice.

Uppu thinnavan vellam kudikkum ennathu prakrithi niyamam anu. Ippol jacobite leaders-nu athinu samayam ayi

Tbeir Crimes:

1. Misleading innocent followers of Jacobite Church and forcing them to break peace
2. campaigning false and half truths among public in general
3.Fighting against true believers
4. Working against s peaceful living
5. Committing murders, and desobeying court orders
6. Destroying the BODY OF CHRIST

sajudaniel said...

Till the apolstolic visit of HH Patriarch Jacobite leaders were attacking Orthodox Church.
Before HH Zakka left, he blessed Jacobites saying that they can join Communist party and in the meeting HH was presented with DAS CAPITAL, the Communist holy bible.

Now the jacabites are on the defensive not because of Orthodox Church but becasue of tehir own evil. See they are fighting a case in court which was not filed by the Orthodox Church, but CBI, an investigative agency of our Land

Soon the jacobite leaders will run for cover. Some of them will be caught and will spend their last days in jail. The rest may jump into Arabian sea to save skin. The innocent lambs will find refuge in the true fort, JESUS CHRIST.

sajudaniel said...

One who has attemped to kill self (Suicide attempt by a prominent Jacobite leader) may not hesitate to kill also. Murder is the solution he get when he thinks of a problem

Avarachayan said...

hahahaha----exactly true mr.saju daniel.

sajudaniel said...

Dear Abded

You know that Kothamangalam execution petition is now being arguyed in the High Court. So you can expect a ruling within a week or two.

I hope you already know the verdict

Philip said...

syrian bhasha, syrian thoppi, syrian vadi, syrian............., ithallathey verevallathum undo karatheerna antiochya bhakthanmarkku, Do they ever uphold the values of Christ and his true followers. What ever you talk in the name of Christ according to them is hypothecated to one and only Patriarch in Antioch. Literally these guys are a frog in the pond

Jaimon said...

They contributed few more to the Society!!!

1) Quotation Culture!!!
2) Chaaver Culture!! (Not for Christ, but for the crooked church leaders)
3) Giebelsian Culture, Pretending stands for peace!! (If not ready to respect court orders that are not in favor, What it means !! )
mind

sajudaniel said...

The jacobites are taught that 'SYRIAN' means Antioch, Dear friends

The language SYRIAC whichis close to our Lord's mother tounge Aramaic was the liturgy langauge developed whereever Christianity was established in the middle east.

It was brought to Malankara by St Thomas.
Just like we are Malayalees, teh actual language of Antiochians are ARABIC. Just like our seminary students learn Syriac, Antiochian church seminary students learn it.

Just like we laity do not understand SYRIAC, Antiochina church followers do not know Syriac.

Here some jacobites belive that Antioch Church means SYRIAC. Help them Almight Lord

sajudaniel said...

Exactly a year ago (June 2009) National Geographic Magazine had acover story about ARAB CHRIOSTIANS

It is available on internet. Please read it. At least some Jacobite here wil get some reality.

It says they disappearing form the land...

HB Thomas Bava said in one Viswasamrlhakan interview in 2009 while was absonding in USA: Antiochian Church has achieved great growth now It has constructed 70- room building... (followers can have one room each.. ha ha ha)...

ha ha ha Only HB Thomas can say that..What should we belive... National Geographic Cover Story OR Thomas bava who talked about building.


HB Thomas bava is right according to some Jacobite followers as bhilding is a visible proof of growth...

Abded said...

Dear Saju, you are saying a lot of things without meaning... no wonder empty vessels are supposed to make more noise. Anway,... thanks for putting an average sized metran kakshi brain on public display...

One comment of urs I have to reply to.... you said JOC is fighting the case against CBI and a lot of blah blah blah.. Please do give your brains some work beore you go blah blah blah full steam..... fush bashlomo!

sajudaniel said...

Dear Abded:

YOU just AVOIDED answering any of the points I raised.

I am sorry that your people do not have a chance to air your opinion in your own church. You call us KAKSHI. But we have a system of governance and open discussions unlike your society. Otherwise how could a priest (secerary of Angalmay diocese of ur Church) handover a large sum of money collecetd as relief fund to GUNDAS as alleged by CBI. Just look at the facts dear ABDED, who is the kakshi? People who go by the constitution approved by the apex court or people who broke away from it and then formed a dulpcate one under the Society Act? Even amendements to 1934 constition were done as per YOUR lawyers demands in the SC. Fearing a failure you did not participate in the process done under guidance of Hon'be SC of India. (Your faction reluctantly paid Rs 2 lakhs to Hon'be Justice Malimut after non-participation) ......SAKALA VRITHIKEDUM KANICCHITTUM pinneyum nayikku murumuruppu enna paranjathu pole ane ningalude karyangal...

What is your so called Churchs's constitution? (Even now some of ur people will sign that they follow 1934 constitution and then kill its spirit.) I can only call them HYPOCRITES. Even HB had signed it

Do you know that the educatonal level of Jacobite Christians is at least three generations behind that of Orthodox Christains (who have a prominent presence in the south) If you can't believe it just go through the census studies available with the census dept. Study the backwardnes of your people. Had your people been a little more educated you would not have allowed peole like HB Thomas I and Thampu for this type of dominance. By the by, what is the edu standtard of your HB Thomas I (former Anchal appice runner) ? You know HB Thomas had sent a registered letter banning the entry of his own catholicose HB Paulose into any churches of Ankamaly diocese. Did he attempt suicide while being the chaplain of Kolenchery hospital? ...........Any tree is known by the fruits it bear, my dear Abded. It is Jesus Christ who said so. (maybe your people do not know HIM)

Abded, Unfortunate things await your society after the demise of HB Thomas because whatever yu did were for only for short-term victory.

Hoodaya canon pronounces curses on the person gives money and takes money for ordination of BISHOPS. If HOODAYA Canon is true, YOUR CHURCH IS ALREADY C---ED. May the mercy of the LORD ALMIGHTY forgive your bishops. (Any way Hoodaya Canon doesn't speak anything about capitalists, crooked politicians and ungodly people honoured as CHAVALIERS and Commanders)

[Just for info, can i know the present rate for the post of BAR ABRA...... ]

ARABIKALUDE ASANAM kazhukunna panikkku ente generations-nu orikkalum pokan pattilla. Athinaalaanu vottavakaasam polum tharatha ANTIOCHIA ARABIKALUDE koode pokaathe abhimanamulla BHARATHEEYA Malankara Narani (of priestly origin) ayi nilkkunathu.

sajudaniel said...

Abded, You didn't get it correctly

Jacobites are defending a MURDER case FILED by CBI against your priest Fr varghese Thekkekkara. Mrs Sranma, wife of of the murdered person has charged that the CBI's charge sheet incomplete. So Orthodox church is not fighting against you. It is the CBI who has chargesheeted your FATHER.

If you don't get it again ask your lawyers

Thomaskutty said...

Dear Saju, I think St Gregorios of parumala also did the same 'pani' as you mentioned above.He wrote in His Salmoosa that those who are cursed by The Patriarch of antioch would be cursed. One more thing...Do you know where is Jesus Christ from?????????

Philip said...

Dear Saju, Are you really in your senses. There is a say "Pothinodu vedam odaruthey. The name Abded itself is of an Arabian origin. Why do you need to communicate with a person who does not even want to make his identity clean. In short don't communicate with a b_ _ _ _ _ d. The proverbs says, "Bhoshaney olakka kondu adichallum avante bhoshataram marilla'. So don't attempt any more.

Thomaskutty said...

Can you please tell me what was the educational qualification of St. Thomas, the Apostle?

sajudaniel said...

Fr Thekekkara given conditional bail> he has to present himslef before EKM CJM cout within 7 days. But soon there may be an appeal.

CBI had not opposed his bail application. Police & kallan ... sorry Police Vs Murderer (accused) kalio?

sajudaniel said...

Hi Abded

Start your celebrations! The First accused in the murder case of malankara varghese got conditional bail rom the Hon'be HC of Kerala.
CBI had no objection i suppose. Kallanum police-um kalio ithu?

But what about from God's court? We seek justice from Heavenly COURT

gleeson said...

Dear abded,

Have you heard of that old malayalam proverb....

"Kazhutha Kaamam karanju theerkum"

You cant find fault with them....

Enthokkeyayirunnu...
34 constitution...
58 shamadhanam...
95 supreeeme court...
2002 maliiimut...
olakkede moode...

finally what happened...

So the donkey will continue to cry...

Now the donkey is trying for that elusive and non existent or--sm by way of an execution petition... Let it continue to cry...

People who are so sure of the educational levels of themselves should also ponder on the number of old age homes also in those areas where their own old parents are dumped...

Abded, the high court gave bail to thekkekara achen today. It also observed that the lone witness against achen is too weak...

So the donkey will start crying again...

get some wool and fix it in your ears...

gleeson

mohanmathew said...

There is an online media called Malankara Syriac Voice. They have celebrated the bail of Fr Thekkekkara. What is there to celebrate dear MSV?

This is a typical example of how worldly people (like GUNDAS and criminals) do when they escape punishment even for a short period.

Viswasasamrakshkan had said "The case has to be proved in court"

Yes you are right SAMRAKSHAKAN. Even murderers realise they DID COMMIT MURDER only when the case is proved. Even if it is proved in lower court you can appeal and the actual murderer can coontinue to believe that you did not MUREDER.

Once a thief was caught for stealing a chain, but the prosecution couldn't prove that he was guilty. Soon after he was set free by the court, he asked his lawyer and the people standing around before , "Sir can I keep the gold chain now since I am proved innocent?"

My Dear Jacobite brothers, my question to you: DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE IN A 'CHURCH' which celebrate murder?
If you think you can pardon this case, see where your leadership will lead your generations? the Bible says "Blind CANNOT lead the blind. I hope you people become a corrective force in your church.

mohanmathew said...

Jaco.... leaders, Fr Thekkekkara can be declared as a saint since he has been given bail and also 'proved innocent' in the nearest future.

So the canonisaton can be done during the next visit of HH Zacha. If he disagrees HH Zacha could he 'handled like you did in the past.

But next time don't let Pinarayi anywhere near HH ZACHA. Since Both centre and state ruled (in 2011) by Congress, you can persent Khadi mundu or thorthu. [congress people are not very fascinated in reading]

mohanmathew said...

My dear Thomaskutty

Did you mean that Parumala Thirumeni took moneyto anoint bishops... Patriarch's curse is only to teh extend that he lives by word of God and not impose slavery on other. Parumala Thirumeni himself signed a letter supporting Pulikottil Thirumeni against the wishes of the patriarch.

Comparing HB Thomas and St Thomas, the apostle ha ha ha ha

By the by, do you think St Thomas was (at least) a priest? It was one Patriach who sent a Kalapana that St Thomas was not even a priest, let alone a bishop. Please answer this dear friend Thomaskutty

mohanmathew said...

Apara budhiya HB Thomasinu. Kalichu klalichu jacobyayakare ellam vellathilakkiyennu paranjal mathiyallo..

During the visit of HH Zacha , Jacobites were at the peak of their 'AHANKARAM".. HG Josepsh Mar Gregorios and HB Thomas declared they could no longer wait to enter Thrikkunnathu Seminary.

Didimos bava oru rallyku njangale vilicchu. Athode theernnu HB Thomas-nte managing capacity. Pinne nithyam adhogathiyanu.. Americakku olicchodi poyi one year...Ippol fighting a dirty case.. ini noorilla

mohanmathew said...

My dear Thomaskutty

Did you mean that Parumala Thirumeni took moneyto anoint bishops... Patriarch's curse is only to teh extend that he lives by word of God and not impose slavery on other. Parumala Thirumeni himself signed a letter supporting Pulikottil Thirumeni against the wishes of the patriarch.

Comparing HB Thomas and St Thomas, the apostle ha ha ha ha

By the by, do you think St Thomas was (at least) a priest? It was one Patriach who sent a Kalapana that St Thomas was not even a priest, let alone a bishop. Please answer this dear friend Thomaskutty




The first defense of the Jaco.... leaders was demanding an enquiry into the murder of Binu who was hit by Varghese's car while Varghese panicked to escape the fury of some youngsters of jacobite camp. Immediate resposnse of the Varghese action was that they too would support a CBI inquiry. Suddenly there was deep silence. What is the meaning of it?

Prababably Jacobites did not want the sphere of investigation to expand as this would bring light upon the activities of a fanatial youth wing called KEFA.

I think we should again challenge them to demand a CBI enquiry into the death of BINU and aftermath, also how the funds raised to help his family was utilised etc.

Jaimon said...

Mr. Thomaskutti , I only know Jesus is "Son of GOD" !! Please excuse me If I'm wrong!! (An average methran kakshi brain !!)

Jaimon said...

Society Brothers . Please wait to celebrate !! "St.Thekkekara" is not declared to be innocent !! He is still the first accused !! just got a conditional bail !! Even "Ripper Chandran" will get bail if POLICE is not opposing , but that doesn't mean he is innocent !!

sneham said...

enthokke ayalum sathyam theliyum ennathil samsayamilla. but sathaym enthanennu nam engane ariyum. nam arudeyum paksham cgernnu parayuka alla vendathu sathyam theliyuvan divathod prathikkuka.case jayikkukayo tholkkukayo cheythalum nashttappettathu a kudumbathinanu. enthu cheythu nammude sabakal akudumbathinu.
ithodanubadhichu oru binu enna bavakashikaranum marichu . ayalkkum a sabha enthu cheythu?

ennu therum e arum kolapathasrengala?
arkku vendy enthinu vendy
ninte sahodaranu ninnod enthelum virodham undennu thonniyal adhyam avanod poyi nirappakuka athinu sesham vannnu vazhipadu kahikkuka enna theruvachanam anusarikkukayanael arkkenkilum e boomiyil visudha qurban arppikkuvan sadhikkumo?

malbar badrasanathil ippolenthu santhathayanu. oru pallyilum case illa?
namukk athu mathruka akkarutho?
sahodara sabakal ayi pokarutho?
arkku vendy vekthibanthgal nasippikkunnu?

Thampy said...

Thekke karayil ninnu vanna Adhi buthimaan, Gunda Thalavante Asst. Varghese chettane Samrekshikkan Societiyile Nethaakkal Rehasiyamayi Iranghiyittundennu Ullathinu Oru Samsayavum Venda. Court Sambendhamayi varunna Vaarthakal Anghane Soochanakal Nalkunnu, Ennu Thonnunnu. Behu. Court Adhikaarikal Nishpashatha Kaanikkum Ennu Thanne Namukku Daivathil Saranappettu, Praarthichu, Pratheeskshikkammmm......

Avarachayan said...

ഒടേതമ്പുരാന്‍ വിചാരിച്ചാലും ഈ വര്‍ഗത്തിനെ നന്നാക്കാന്‍ പറ്റുകില്ല. സ്വന്തം രാജ്യത്തെയും മക്കളെയും വരത്തന്‍ മാര്‍ക്കു മുന്‍പില്‍ കാഴ്ച വയ്ക്കുന്നവര്‍ പണ്ട് കാലം മുതലേ നമ്മുടെ നാട്ടില്‍ ഉണ്ടായിരുന്നു. മാനം എന്നോന്നില്ലെങ്ങില്‍ എന്ത് ചെയ്യാനാ. syrians എന്ന് പറയല്ലേ, യകൊബായ സഭക്കാര്‍ക്ക് സഹിക്കില്ല. ശീമയില്‍ നിന്നും വന്നര്‍ എന്ന് പറയ്‌. ശീമ എന്നാല്‍ സ്വര്‍ഗരാജ്യവും ആകാശങ്ങളില്‍ ഇരിക്കുന്ന ഞങ്ങളുടെ ബാവ എന്നാല്‍ patriarchese ബാവയും ആണെന്നാണ് ഇവറ്റകള്‍ പഠിച്ചു വച്ചിരിക്കുന്നത്.

Avarachayan said...

ഇവറ്റകള്‍ നന്നാവണം എങ്കില്‍ വലിയൊരു കരിസ്മടിക് ധ്യാനം വയ്ക്കണം. അല്ലെങ്ങില്‍ hard disk ഫോര്‍മാറ്റ്‌ ചെയ്യുന്നത് പോലെ ബ്രെയിന്‍ ഫോര്മാറ്റ് ചെയ്യണം,.

Avarachayan said...

ഇപ്പോള്‍ ഗുണ്ടകള്‍ക്ക് പ്രിയം കല്ലരകളാണ് . അതും വിശുദ്ധന്മാരുടെ. ഗുണ്ട പ്രഥമനു ത്രിക്കുന്നത് സെമിനാരിയിലെ കല്ലരകലോടാണ് പ്രിയം. അവടെ പോലീസ് ഉള്ളത് കൊണ്ട് ഇതുങ്ങള് ചാരായവും കോഴികളെയും കൊണ്ട് കയറുന്നില്ല. അല്ലെങ്ങില്‍ ഒഹ് ഓര്‍ക്കാന്‍ കൂടി വയ്യ.

Avarachayan said...

വെളിച്ചപ്പാടുകള്‍ മറുഭാഷ പറഞ്ഞു തുള്ളുന്നത് കണ്ടിട്ടുണ്ടോ. അത് പോലെ എന്തൊക്കെയോ വിളിച്ചു കൂവി നില്‍കുന്ന കുറെ അച്ഛന്‍ മാരും ആളുകളും, സുറിയാനി ആണെന്നാണ് പറയുന്നത്, എന്നാല്‍ അത് എന്താണെന്നു ഒരുത്തനും അറിയില്ല .അതില്‍ കള്ളുകുടിയന്മാര്‍ അച്ചന്മാര്‍ വരെ ഉണ്ട്. എന്തിനു പെരുമ്പിള്ളി തിരുമേനി എങ്ങിനെയായിരുന്നു. തോമസ്‌ പ്രഥമന്‍ ഏത് ബ്രാന്‍ഡ്‌ ആണോ അടിക്കുന്നത്. ? പെരുംബാവൂര്‍ ഏരിയ യിലെ ഒട്ടുമിക്ക യകൊബായ പള്ളികളിലും ചാരായ വാട് നടന്നിരിന്നതായി പറഞ്ഞു കേട്ടിട്ടുണ്ട്. കേഫ യ്ക് വേണ്ടിയും ഗുണ്ടകള്‍ക്ക് വേണ്ടിയും.

Philip said...

“Parishudhha Thekkekara Acho Njangalkkuvendi appeshikkenamey.
Chervaliyilley Punyavallo Njangaley thalli kalayalley” Cement Joye ivarkku kootayirikkenamey!

Ee apeksha 41 thavana ravilayum vaikittum chollukka.
Malankara Varghese caseinu 90 divasathinullil pradhi vidhi undakum.
Perumbalill Pithavannu satyam.
Njan oru thadavu sonnal athu 100 thadavu sonna mathiri!

Avarachayan said...

മോനെ സ്നേഹിതാ , സഹോദര സഭയായി പോകുന്നതിനു ഒരു പ്രയാസവുമില്ല. ആദ്യം മലങ്കര സഭയുടെ പള്ളികളില്‍ നിന്നും ഇറങ്ങി പുറത്തു വന്നു സംസാരിക്കു. അല്ലാതെ മലങ്കര സഭ മക്കളെ വെട്ടിക്കൊന്നും , ബലമായി പള്ളികള്‍ പിടിച്ചെടുത്തും അല്ല സഹോദര സ്നേഹം കാണിക്കേണ്ടത്. മലബാറിലെ കാര്യം നിങ്ങള്‍ക്കറിയാമല്ലോ. ചീങ്ങേരി പള്ളി ഇനി എന്തിനു കൊള്ളാം. കേസ് കൊടുത്തു ഉള്ള പള്ളികളെല്ലാം പൂട്ടിച്ചിട്ടു നശിപ്പിചിടു ഇപ്പോള്‍ സാഹോദര്യം പറയുന്നോ. നാണമില്ലല്ലോ സുഹൃത്തേ. എന്തെങ്കിലും പറഞ്ഞാല്‍ അപ്പോള്‍ പറയും ഞങ്ങളുടെ ആരാധനയും, ഭാഷയും , വേഷ ഭൂഷാതികളും ഞങ്ങളുടെ അല്ലെ എന്ന്. അത് കൊണ്ടാണ് പറയുന്നത് " വിവരമില്ലാത്തവര്‍ " ആണ് യാക്കോബായക്കാര്‍ എന്ന്. പാവങ്ങള്‍, അവരുടെ അച്ഛന്‍ മാരുടെ ഡ്രസ്സ്‌ സിരിയക്കാരുടെ എന്നാണ് ധരിച്ചു വച്ചിരിക്കുന്നത്.

What is called as Syrian traditon now is not exactly Sysrian. My dear friend should be better informed about that. For example: Liturgy it has coem from Greek. So you think you will be slave to Greeks? Antiochs are Arabs. They have learned Syriac just like we learn syriac here in kerala. Syriac a semetic language close to Aramaic spoken language of jesus developed as a liturgy language. Antioch who are Arabs have not inherited it. We have inherited Syriac language just like Arabs got it.

Andrew John said...

Dear Abded,How can we justify a murder?Now everybody realized the truth.All these things happened because of the vested interest of our sreshta idayan.This murder case will be a black mark for our church forever.Hope our patriarch will interfere on this matter and remove him from his position.What happened to our malabar diocesan metropolitan Mar philexinos?Is he really sick or became sick by our sreshta idayan?

Avarachayan said...

ഹഹഹഹ , ഗ്ലീസണ്‍ എഴുതിയത് കണ്ടു, " കഴുത കാമം കരഞ്ഞു തീര്‍ക്കും " വളരെ സത്യം ഗ്ലീസണ്‍ . ആരാണ് കാമം മൂത്ത് kolenchery ഹോസ്പിറ്റലില്‍ കരഞ്ഞു കരഞ്ഞു അവസാനം ആത്മഹത്യ ചെയ്യാന്‍ പോയത് ? അദ്ദേഹം ഇപ്പോഴും കരയുന്നുണ്ടല്ലോ. സുഹൃത്തേ ഈ വയസ്സ് കാലത്തെങ്കിലും ഇതൊക്കെ നിര്‍ത്താന്‍ പറ. അല്ലെങ്കില്‍ കടുക്ക വെള്ളം കൊടുക്ക്‌.

mohanmathew said...

You are right Philip, Thanks for information on SYRIAC

Heard the latest on Kothamangalam case?

issac said...

We have been taken for a BIG RIDE by CBI.Nithing is going to come out of this case.CBI have closed it for ever. dont understand why a ist accused in murder doesnt even have to spend at least a day in jail.Why he is given anticipatory bail. he was not even questioned in CBI custody. Cbi gave reason in court that he cooperated. is it the proper reason.

Till now we have been telling that LDF govt is hushing up the case. But what about CBI. They are controlled by centre congress ministry.

Another thing is about the media. When priests and nun in abhaya case were in court media was celebrating like anything. but when thekkekara is in court, everybody kept away. The papers and the channels didnt give any live coverage.

dont understand what is happening. is jacobites more powerfull than the catholics

Jeevan said...

@abded

How can someone justify a murder? Till now Jacobites have killed 3 members from IOC.

2 pere CBI pokkukayum cheythu, ennittum orothanmarude anitiyokia branthu kanmbol....

parazhitentha karyam...