Saturday, June 26, 2010

Fr. I.C. Pathrose Ramban joined with Puthen Kurish Society.

Fr. I.C. Pathrose Ramban joined with Puthen Kurish Society.

Orthodox Herald report about Fr. I.C. Pathrose Ramban

70 comments:

Avarachayan said...
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mohanmathew said...

who is this IC Pathros Ramban? Never heard of him

rajanthomas said...

I have read a posting in Malankara syriac voice that Fr.I.C. pathrose Remban joined the" mother" church! wondeful!! Now puthencruez soceity call themseles as "mother church"
The" mother church"of heretitic teachings and cultureless behavior
and barbaric actions/work will truly give the Remban a name "good Son"!

jamon said...

not Puthen Kurish Society,
"Mother Charch".

With Prays
Jaimon
Dubai

Abraham said...

It's so sad. I think achen was forced to join as all his relatives are with patriarch faction. Achen was so struggling to be retained in orthodox faction

Thampy said...

Mr. Joice, Aadhiyam Puthen Curisu Societiyil Chernnu ennu Parayunna Ee "Pathrochane" Ellavarkkum Parichayappeduthuka. Ennittu Comments Idaan Parayukaaaaaaaaa......

basil said...

Who was he ???

Varghese said...

joining a different sabha is once own personnel choice and discussing it wont bring him back. It would be better if we use the word syrian orthodox church rather than puthencruz society. lets try to make peace not drift away from our brothers by spreading hatred.

eldhose said...

He realized the truth and came back to his mother church
thats all

Mathayichan said...

പുത്തന്‍കുരിശു സൊസൈറ്റി യില്‍ നിന്ന് ചിലര്‍ കഞ്ഞിക്കുഴി സൊസൈറ്റി യില്‍ ചേരുന്നു... കഞ്ഞിക്കുഴിയില്‍ നിന്ന് ചിലര്‍ പുത്തെന്‍കുരിശു സൊസൈറ്റി യില്‍ ചേരുന്നു... എല്ലാവര്ക്കും അവരവരുടെ സ്വാര്‍ഥ ലാഭങ്ങള്‍ മാത്രം ലക്‌ഷ്യം.... അല്ലാതെ ഇതില്‍ എന്ത് ആധ്യാത്മികത!!!

Mathew said...

ഇത്തരത്തിൽ വിശുദ്ധനായ ഒരു വൈദികനെ മനസിലാക്കൂവാനൂം ഉപയോഗിക്കൂവാനൂം ഈ സഭക്കു കഴിയാതെ പോയി.
ഖേദിക്കൂന്നൂ.

Philip said...

Who is this Ramban? How much did he pay?

Thomas said...

Can I expect some case history against Very Rev. I C Pathrose Ramban

Avarachayan said...

ഇത്രയും വിശുദ്ധനായ ഒരു വൈദികനെ മനസിലാക്കൂവാനൂം ഉപയോഗിക്കൂവാനൂം ഈ സഭക്കു കഴിയാതെ പോയി.
ഖേദിക്കൂന്നൂ. ലജ്ജിക്കുന്നു.

http://www.orthodoxherald.net/archives/1276

മലങ്കര സഭക്ക് ആയിരമായിരം അഭിവാദ്യ ങ്ങള്‍ . ഇവിടെ ആര്‍ക്കും ഇതൊന്നും നോക്കാന്‍ നേരമില്ലല്ലോ. എല്ലാരും സൂപര്‍ താരങ്ങളല്ലേ.

jamon said...

Dear Philip,
how much IOC got from Athansious ,Militious & Nicholas ..........?

"He realized the truth and came back to his Mother Church
thats all"

don't take tension

with prays
jaimon
dubai

Thomas said...

Mr. Rajanthomas
Vanna Vazhikal Marakkalle (Don't Forget the Path)Thomas

Abraham said...

I.C Pathrose achen was a most honorable monk priest in our church. He used to meditate inside deep forests for years continuously and had long beard and hair. Two three times he came back to town, again went back to forest as he felt unrest about the external world. My father, being his senior in seminary with him was so fascinated about his life that he used to bring me in my childhood before achen and asked his prayer for us. He was a true monk. As all his background was patriarchal, he struggled a lot to remain catholicate faction. My father remember that his parents used to come in night time secretly to Trikkunnath seminary to see him. They feared that if the other faction had known about it, they will not be remained alive.

Avarachayan said...

ഹലോ ജാമോന്‍, ഞങ്ങള്‍ക്ക് ടെന്‍ഷന്‍ എന്തിനാണെന്ന് അറിയാമോ.? ഇത്രയും നല്ലൊരു വൈദികന്‍ ഒരു ഗുണ്ടാ സംഘത്തില്‍ എങ്ങിനെ എത്തിപ്പെട്ടു എന്നതിനാണ്. അല്ലാതെ പുതെന്‍ കുരിശു കാരുടെ കൂടെ ആര് പോയാലെന്ത് ?
പിന്നെ ജാമോന്‍ എഴുതിയല്ലോ

"He realized the truth and came back to his Mother Church
thats all" എന്ന്.

ഒന്ന് കുറച്ചു കൂടി വ്യക്തമാക്കാമോ ? അറിയാമെങ്കില്‍.

jayan said...

Pathors Ramapchante lakshyam athmeeyamanenkil , Puthenkurisu society il cherunnathu "PADA PEDICHU PANTHALATHU CHENNAPPOL AVIDE PANTHAM KOLUTHI PADA" enna avastha akaananu sadhyatah !!!.

Philip said...

Jamon,
Heard about dumb wipers. They don't hear anything other than what they want to see.
Are you younger than 15 years. If so try to find out from your parents what happend in 1995 and what was Pradhaman doing until 2002. And then ask him because he also offered something which IOC didn't accept. Obviously it was not in terms of money.
Try to be bold in accepting facts. Ha ha ha how can I talk common sense to screamers. A........... marakoola.
Talking about MOTHER CHURCH. Do you know what is the role of a MOTHER. Ammayemaranallum......... Who are these who scream so and now you talk about the prominence of MOTHER.
Thick skinned people

Philip said...

LET PATHROSE RAMBAN REST IN PIECE
AMMAYA MA..........KYAYE........Koola

Alex said...

FLASH NEWS: Very I C Pathrose Ramban realised the truth...orthodox sabhayil ninnal ini methran aakan pattilla ini eka vazhi society sabhayude thalavanu kudumba swathallem ezhuthikodathu nalla kuttiyaayi nadannu methran aakan nokkuvaanu. Guragante kaaryam nerathe arinjirunnil ee abadham pattillayirunnu.. ini enthu cheyyana... ellam ezhuthi koduthu poyille.....

Philip said...

In all probability for another 5 years MOC is not going to have any new Bishops. By then to elect 14 candidates, you will have atleast 41 aspiring for this position. Those who are aged 53 and above now have to find alternate ways to fulfill their dream of becoming a Bishop. As there is no special privileges for people belonging to a certain area for getting elected you have to be extremely lucky to get into that position in MOC.
Now there are three ways to get it. One is ignore that position and leave it to the Call; second start working with some propaganda and seek public attention and finally by hook or by crook.
Now our Rembachen aged 55, a few years back, on one of his trips back from the forest, contested the election for Episcopacy and have eaten the sour grapes by getting hardly few votes at the Association. May be the reason for this sudden change of heart could be, he must have got that same vision, like the recent red gowned ones, that he was denied entry to Heaven since he didn’t wear a red gown
As he had the earnest desire to become a Bishop, he had the slightest hope in Gurgon make recently, who now demands that you need a church of your own and a minimum of 50 families plus Rs.25.00 Lac and monthly retainership . This is no way possible. Even his family members who are diehard P.S.Members are under 15 families. The broker who worked with him for this position looking at his pathetic condition has now given him another alternative. ‘Give the property that is in your name to Pradhaman and within a period of 5 years you will be made a Bishop for Monastic ‘lifes’ in the P.C.Society giving company to Mar Barnabas who is Bishop for ‘Spirit’ Organisations.
The P.C.Society is actively considering a Rite Movement for Refugees and there is no limit for entries into it. The current rate for Ex-MOC is Rs.40 Lacs provided you are a known person like M.O.J.

4 said...

Enthinanu engane chadi nadakkunathu, oru suprabhathathil namuk kelkkan kazhiyum Pathros Rampachan Bishop aayennu,

Enthina Rampacha Gundakalodopoam poyathu, Njangalkku vishamam und

Jeemon said...

Jeemon

""Kashtam ennallathe enna parayana????? ethoke vayichitt... Kureperu angottu pokunnu, kurachu peru engottu varunnu... ellam kollam...pakshe oru karym ellarum chindik...ningalude amma allel sister allel cousins....ethil arengilumoke ethir vibhagathil ninnum ullathu alle???? avarumai ningal ADIKKAN POKUMO????


RATHNACHURUKKAM

""Arante ammakku Brandu vannal Kanan Nalla Chela""" ALLEEEE????

KASHTAM, KASHTAM....Pura jathikale kandu padikkkkkkkk.....e kemanmar....

4 said...

4the People............

chadi nadakkunna vaidheekarum, Thirumenimarum onnu orkkanam ningal parayunathu anusarikkuvan mathramalla viswasikalkku kazhiyunathu, adhikarathinu venid enthum chaiyumpol athinodu prathikarikkan ariyan vayyanjittalla

Thampy said...

Mr. Joice, Njaan Aadhiyam Ezhuthiyathu Pole, I. C. P Enna Ee V I P Yekurichu Oru Leghu Vivaranam Kodukkuka, Pleaseeee....Aale Eaverkkum Manassilavattenne.....

Philip said...

No body who cares for their life will join MOC from PC Society. Even CBI is scared of Gunda Pradhaman which is evident from the fact they didn't even oppose the bail applicaiton of Thekkekara. People who care their life will stay with PC Society.

Chandichayan, Puthuppally said...

malabarile theophilos thirumeniyumayi udakki ponnathanennu thonnunnu.

Chandichayan, Puthuppally said...

Nammude Oru Pramukha Kalyanam Kazhikkatha Vaidikan (Chuvanna Kuppaya Mohi) Puthenkurisil Kodutha Apekshacku Vaidika Trustee Aayi Chennal udane Methranpattam Kodukkamennum Allenkil Pathu Varsham Kazhinju Kodukkamennum Innalathe Synod Theerumanichirikkunnu.

Adutha thavana O Thomas Achanodu Malsarichal Ee Vaidikan Thottupokum. Seminarykkaru Kalu Varukayum Cheyyum. Iny saranam Gurgan Mathram!!!

Avarachayan said...

ചാണ്ടിച്ചായ, കൂടുതല്‍ വിവരങ്ങള്‍ അറിയാമെങ്കില്‍ ദയവായി എഴുതുക.

തെയോഫീലോസ് തിരുമേനിയും ചില സമയത്ത് പക്വത ഇല്ലായ്മതരം പ്രവര്‍ത്തിക്കുന്ന തിരുമേനി ആണ്.

Chandichayan, Puthuppally said...

Thirumenikkum Chila Kusrithikal Okke Undu. Uchakku Qurbana Cholluka Thudangiyava. Vallathum Chodhichal Kure Sabha Pithakkanmarude Katha Parayum.

Avarachayan said...

ഇത് ഒരു വിമര്‍ശനം എന്ന് മാത്രം എടുക്കുക.---- കുറ്റപ്പെടുത്തല്‍ അല്ല. ----- തെയോഫിലോസ് തിരുമേനിയോടുള്ള പ്രശ്നം ആണ് ഇതിനു പിന്നിലെങ്കില്‍ ഉടനെ സഭ ഈ വിഷയം ചര്‍ച്ച ചെയ്യണം. മലബാറില്‍ തിരുമേനിയോട് പ്രശ്നം ഉള്ള പ്രമുഖര്‍ ഇനിയും ഉണ്ട്. തിരുമേനിക്ക് നന്നായി അറിയാം. പക്ഷെ എന്ത് ചെയ്യാം. ചെങ്ങന്നൂര്‍ ക്കാരനല്ലേ , ആരെയും മയിണ്ട് ചെയ്യാതെ , ഒന്നും സംഭവിക്കാത്തത് പോലെ , ഇരിക്കും, അത് കൂടുതല്‍ പ്രശ്നം ആകുമെന്ന് തിരുമേനി ചിന്തിക്കുന്നില്ല. അതിനു എവിടെ നേരം. അരമനയില്‍ ഇരുന്നിട്ട് വേണ്ടേ. ആരെയെങ്കിലും മുടക്കണം എങ്കില്‍ ആള്‍ ഫുള്‍ ഫോമിലായിരിക്കും എപ്പൊഴും.

mohanmathew said...

I hward that PuthenKuruishu centre is on 'panayam' for raising money to 'conduct' malankara varghese case. Is it true?

Pinne ithokke HB Thomasnte number akaane vazhiyullu. Personal asset aayi Koodikal CHRUVALLI TRUST enna peril ittirikkunu.

Chandichayan, Puthuppally said...

Cheruvally Estate Allallo. Athu Nammude K P Yohannan Thirumeniyude Kayyila. Angeru Aa Casil Ninnu Rakshapedan Catholica Aakan Orungiyirikkukayanennu Kelkkunnu. Gurgan Thirumenikku Onnu Nokkavunna case Aanu. Kure Bishopumar Ippol Thanne Undu. CSI Bishopumarkku Casu Koduthu Bishop Aayathanenne Oru Kuravullu.

Avarachayan said...

വാസ്തവം

mohanmathew said...

Amma undayathu 2002il. Thanthekku mumbu undayvan ennu kettitte ullu. ....

mohanmathew said...

HB Thomas commander aakkiya oral kodikal koduthu polum... ella Cheruvalli trust il anu ippol

mohanmathew said...

Puthen Kurisu karude constitutionnu door illa polum... anyone can come in anyone can go out. That is why they are worried now...

Now they are calling Orthodox church Kanjikuzhi society.. poor souls..still do not why they are called a 'soceity'

rajanthomas said...

mr.Thomas,
The Way/Path, Is Jesus christ!"Vanna Vazhikal onnum Marakkalle" Can you please tell me who should not forget the "Path".Puthencruez sociey and their Antiochean(universal syriac orthodox) counterpart are not mother church.The present Universsl Syriac orthodox Church has all evil desires of acts "Kaaluvaral,kuthikalvettu,Dravyagrham, Asooya, paka,pinakkam etc' from the beginning/early centuries in their top heirarchy,though they claim to be saints/sacred.now they will not forget the path!

Saju said...

അദ്ദേഹം ഒരു താപസ ശ്രേഷ്ടന്‍ ആണന്നു പലരുടെയും വാക്കുകളില്‍നിന്നും മനസ്സിലാക്കുന്നു. അദ്ദേഹത്തിന് പറയാനുള്ളത് കേട്ടിട്ട് പോരെ കല്ല്‌ എറിയാന്‍ . ഇരു സഭയിലും ഇങ്ങനെ കുറച്ചു തപസ്വികള്‍ ഉള്ളതിനാലാണ് കര്‍ത്താവ്‌ നമ്മെ നശിപ്പിക്കാതെ ക്ഷമിച്ചു കാക്കുന്നത് …അത് മറക്കല്ലേ ..
സാജു പൗലോസ്‌

4the People said...

Pathrose Rampachan enthinanu Sabha vittu poyathu ennu Parishudha Sunnahadhos charcha chaiyanam, eniyum oru vaidheeka sreshtarum sabha vittu pokan eda varuthallu, sabhaye nashippikkallu aarum , sabhaye Pithakanmar Kashtathakalum Prayasangalum sahichanu Nammalil bharamelpichittullathu anganeyulla sabhaye nashippikkuvan sramikkunnavar daivasannidhiyil shapikkapettavar aakum athu ethra sreshtta thirumeni aayalum, vaidheekanayalum, almayanayalum aarayalum

4the People said...

4 the People.....

sabhaye nashipikkuvan aarum sramikkallu, sbhayanu nammude jeevan, sabhayanu nammude santhosham, sabhayanu nammude samadhanam, sabhayanu nammude swethu, sabhayanu nammude jeevitham, sabhayanu ellam sabha mathavine vedhanippikkallu, Kristhu thante rakthathal veendedutha parishudha sabhaye nashippikkunna pravarthanangalil ninnum pinmaruka... sabhaye nayicha Marthoma sleeha muthal ennuvareyulla Pithakanmarude prarthanayil namukum onnu cheram

Philip said...

“Then Satan entered Judas, called Iscariot, one of the Twelve………… “ Judas was one among the 12 and he also got the same training from Jesus like any other Apostle got and Jesus gave all the 12 equal share in the heavenly kingdom including I presume Judas who betrayed Jesus!

Now going by the report. His Holiness Marthoma Mathews I, left for heavenly abode at the age of almost 90 on 8 Nov 1996. Remban Pathrose was aged 41 then. His Holiness Marthoma Mathews I relinquished the position of Catholicos in 1991 due to poor health. His Holiness was bed ridden for most of his rest of his life. So in all probability, His Holiness must have stood up when Rembachen came to meet him prior to 1991. Even if it was in 1991, the age of this Rembachen must be just around 36.

Now if he has enlightened some who are shocked by this sudden departure to the P.C.Society led by the most notorious Priest on earth, what are you waiting for, clear off and find your way to salvation. Like the scripture says, Are you people of no faith?
Yes everything is wrong in our church. Why do you people still pull on with it? Go embarrass the Society. What do you want to counter offer? The position of Catholicos in MOC or may be the first Indian Patriarch. Give something unique.

Don’t pretend innocence. How many of you know that he has contested in one of the elections for the position of Bishop in our Church. A man who hardly finds time to come out of the forest has suddenly got a vision to join the Society church and he has given all that he had to them. Where did he get the time to amass property to give it to the Society church? Atleast use some commonsense!

Afterall it is an individuals choice. I wish him all success. But what I am annoyed with are those who are spiritually enriched with this Saint should not stay with the Satans here. Go follow your idol.

Chandichayan, Puthuppally said...

Vattakkunnel Bavayude Personal Accountil Ninnum Kaseduthu Puttum Pathravum Adichittu Ippol Kalam Chaitha thirumenikkittu Paniyukayano Heraldkaru!!!

Herald Achan Murukkichuvappichu Pinpiry Aayi Irunnappol Vallom Thonniyathayirikkum.

Varghese said...

Chandy,
I think I am older than you.
You are talking rude. Herald is very good. If that Achen along with Punchakonum goes to P.C.Society who will tell us what is going wrong in our Church.
You see three publications our knowledgeable Achens have. One already become Bishop Thadavoos, another may become Bishop Deepam. But I think he respects his mother and knows his father very well. Now the Herald Achens the problem is they are married. Both good to become bishops but what to do. Got married. Can you find out whether Gurgon making any exceptions. If so please put their name right away in waiting list. I think Avarachen is also in that list.

You see Pathrose Remban’s stays a few kms from my house. I enquired with him. He says Gurgon company approached him and he said, if he want to become Bishop he could have approached Puthencruz Society. Somebody heard this and gave this information to Society office and they say he joined them. So as of now Pathrose Remban is safe and sound with MOSC. Now you people don’t label him a PCSociety Remban. He is having pressure from his family to join the Society since he lost the Bishop election and no body supported him. Our people thought he is a saintly man and is not interested in worldly positions and kept him away from giving him any sort of positions as they thought he will curse them. He is getting ready to go to the forest for meditation now. But if he is caught on his way and taken to the Society office and make him talk in favor of them don’t blame me, I said so!

Avarachayan said...

വര്‍ഗീസ്‌ എഴുതിയതിനോട് ഞാന്‍ പൂര്‍ണമായും യോജിക്കുന്നു. പത്രോസ് റമ്പാന്‍ അദേഹത്തിന്റെ കുടുംബക്കാരുടെ ശല്യം സഹിക്കാതെ ചാടിയതാകാം. ഗുണ്ടാ വര്‍ഗങ്ങള്‍ അല്ലെ. എന്തിനും മടിക്കാത്തവര്‍. തെക്കേക്കരയും, സിമെന്റ് ജോയിയും , എന്തിനു ഗുണ്ടാ പ്രഥമനും പുറത്തു വിലസ്സുന്നുണ്ടല്ലോ. ഈ വയസ്സ് കാലത്ത് അവരുടെ കയ്യില്‍ നിന്നും ചാകണ്ട എന്ന് തോന്നിക്കാണും . അവരുടെ കൂടെ കൂടിയാല്‍ പിന്നെ പേടിക്കണ്ടല്ലോ. എത്ര സുരക്ഷിതം. എന്തായ്യാലും തോമസ്‌ പ്രഥമനെ സമ്മതിക്കണം .

Thampy said...

Very.Rev.I.C Pathrose Ramban, Adhehathinte Jeevitham Visuthy Niranjathayirunnenkil, Ee sabhayil Ninnum, Sabha Pithaakkanmaril Ninnum Enthellam Vishamanghal Anubhavappettaalum, Athellam Avagenichu Kondu Daivasraya Bodhathil Shista Kaalam Kazhichu Koottukayayirunnu Vendathu. Sathiya Viswasathe Thallikalanju Oru Societyude koode Pokendiyirunnilla, Ennu Enikku Thonnunnuuu......

Varghese said...

First he was with Angamaly Bishop. Since he also contested election with him once and both of them lost that time Pathrose Remban went to forest to get some mileage. People thought he turned out to be a holy man and didn't bother to pressurise him to become Bishop. Now he didn't get support from Angamally and shifted to Malabar. There he started pvt. ltd retreat centre which the Bishop said to close down and there he goes to find his mother.

Jeemon said...

Kashtam eee avarachane kondu thottuuu.....e avarachan evide ninnum ellam vangiche poku enna thonnunnee....angu melil chellumpol anubhavikan oru experince akumallo alle???? athalle ellarem egane therivilikkunnnee....arayalm etta kuppayathelm bahumaniknam......

mohanmathew said...

As they generally few can withstand the insecurity in old age-even people who meditate in deep forest.

The reasons are obvious. Had Ramban ben elected a Bisho soem of his Soceity memebrs would have joined Orthodox Church - so strong is the motivation of turning into a Bishop.

Now we cannot help anyone to become a bishop of our Church as we have a clealy defined set up for it. So expect a few more Pathrose Ramabans deserting our Church.

Now we have started reforms for improvement of selection of Bishops. Let us boldly take it forward. Let there more Pathros Rambans if the desire for Red Kuppayam is so intense.

It is clearly evident that the relatives (family members) play a crucial role everywhere. So in teh next stage of improvement in the qualityu selection, let us

1. Ask close relatives to sign a docuemtn that the bishop is father to all members of the Church and they have no special role in the activities of the bishop
2. All the property and power of teh bishop belong to Christ and his bride, the Church. The family wil not covet the prperty governed by the bishop for the Chuch.

The bishop-elect shall sign teh document that: the whole church is my family and all the Church memebers shal be my family members. So help me God

mohanmathew said...

MY QUESTION TO all the friends here:

Will the Orthodox Church entertain anyone who has not been able to become a bishop in their church (read jacobites or Romo-reeth-Syrians) into our fold with the promise of making him a Bishop?

Think........

Avarachayan said...

മോനെ ജീമോനെ അച്ചായന്‍ പോകുന്നതിനു മുന്‍പ് ഒന്ന് പറഞ്ഞോട്ടെ.

ആരായാലും ഇട്ടകുപ്പായം തിരുവസ്ത്രമാണെങ്കില്‍ നമുക്ക് ബഹുമാനിക്കാം. പക്ഷെ അത് ധരിക്കുന്ന ആള്‍ ഒരു ക്രിമിനല്‍ ആണെങ്കിലോ? അങ്ങനെ ഉള്ള ആളുകളെ ആണ് അച്ചായന് പുച്ഛം. തെറി അല്ല സത്യമാണ് അച്ചായന്‍ എഴുതുന്നത്‌ മുഴുവനും. മനസ്സിലാകേണ്ടാവര്‍ക്ക് മനസ്സില്‍ ആകും.

ഇനി ഇട്ട കുപ്പായത്തെ കുറിച്ച് പറഞ്ഞാല്‍, സ്വാമി നിത്യനാന്ദന്‍ ഏത് കുപ്പായം ഇട്ടിട്ടാണ് ആനന്ദിച്ചത്? സന്തോഷ്‌ മാധവനോ ? സായി ബാബാ യും കുപ്പായം ഇട്ടിട്ടാണ്‌ ഭക്തരെ പറ്റിക്കുന്നത്. തെക്കേക്കര അച്ഛന്‍ ഏത് കുപ്പായം ഇട്ടിട്ടാണ് വര്‍ഗീസ്‌ ചേട്ടനെ വെട്ടി നുറുക്കാന്‍ കൊട്ടേഷന്‍ കൊടുത്തത്? തോമസ്‌ പ്രഥമന്‍ ഏത് കുപ്പായം ഇട്ടിട്ടാണ് ആലുവ ഹൈവേയില്‍ കിടന്നു ഉരുണ്ടതു?

മോനെ , കുട്ടാ, ഇതൊക്കെ കാണുമ്പോള്‍ കുപ്പയാതെ ആണോ അത് ഇട്ടിരിക്കുന്ന ആളെ ആണോ ബഹുമാനിക്കേണ്ടത്?

Saju said...

ഒന്ന് പോസിറ്റീവ് ആയി ചിന്തിക്കൂ….ഈ റമ്പാന്‍ യാക്കോബായ സഭയില്‍ നന്നായി വളര്‍ന്നു ശോഭിക്കുമ്പോള്‍ ഈ സഭക്ക് അഭിമാനിച്ചു കൂടെ? ഏതായാലും പാത്രിയര്‍ക്കീസ് മുടക്കിയ ഒരാളെ മെത്രാന്‍ ആക്കി യാക്കോബായ സഭക്കിട്ടു പാര പണിയുകയും ഈ സഭയെ പൊതുജനമധ്യത്തില്‍ നാണം കെടുത്തുകയും ചെയ്ത രണ്ടു ബിഷോപ്മാര്‍ക്ക് പണ്ട് പട്ടം കൊടുത്തല്ലോ എന്ന് ഓര്‍ത്തു യാക്കോബായക്കാര്‍ ലജ്ജിക്കുന്നത് പോലെ ആകില്ല എന്ന് സമാധാനിക്കാം.

eldhose said...

swantham kunjine orunoku polum kanan pattathe car nda edayil kidannu pidanja BINU VARGHESE nda nenjil koodi "KAYATEDA VANDI ONNUKOODA " annu paranja mahathmakalalle ningal.
namikunnu ningale.

Thrikkunnathe Seminary said...

angine paranjappol thaankalum oppam undaayirunnu ennu ellavarum parayunnu...alle Eldhose...

Varghese said...

eldhose,
nee nalla partya, pradhaman itharinjal ninne thattum. nalla velay angarkku english vayikkan ariyathathu. binu vine thattiyathu thomachan aanennulla satyam manasil kidannu thilakkunathu okkanikuvanulla sthalamano ithu. athum ee ammaye marakathavanmarude kootthail

jayan said...

Varghese Chettane Kolappaeduthiyavarude List il oru Eldo undu. Aa Eldo ano ithu ???.

Paavam Binu , Ningalude society leadership Adhehatheyum mattu Paavapetta Yackobayakkeryum Athramathram "BRAIN WASH" Cheythu (Cheythu Kondirikkunnu !!). Al-Qaida chaaverukale "BRAIN WASH" cheythedukkunnathu pole. Allenkil oru nalla cheruppakkaran Swantham Bharya labour pain kondu pulayumpol , Ethiralikale Sangham chernnu Akramikkan pokumo ???? !!!!

Ithu Binu vine Kuttam alla , Adhehathe "BRAIN WASH" cheythavarude kuttam anu 100 %. Ningalude Koottathil arenkilum annu Binuvine discourage cheythirunnenkil adhehathinu Ee gathi varillayirunnu, Swantham Kunjine Onnalla , Ayushkaalm muzhuvanum kanamayirunnu !!. Athinu pakaram Ningal Adhehathe "ENCOURAGE" Cheythu. Aakramikka pettavarude Jeevan Rakshikkanulla thathrappadil Binuvente Jeevan Nashtappettu. Ennittu ippol puthiya Kadhayum kondu vannirikkunnu . Ithu "BRAIN WASH" Cheyyapettavar mathrame Viswasikkoo.!@@##@

Ennittum theernnilla , Adhehathinte peril pirichedutha money upayogichu Ningal Veroru Kudumbathe Anaadhamakki !!! Angane Binuvinet Athmavineyum Ningal Kalankapeduthi.

Adyam Swantham Chinthasehi arkkum panayam vekkkathirikkua , Allenkil athu muthaledukkvan alkkaru kanum .

vincent said...

Dear All
What is the Faith of Jacobite Church?What is the tradition of Jacobite Church?
H.B.Thomas I ,accusation against Very Rev.Pathrose Remban are the above two issues!
Jacobite Church Faith (1) True Faith in "true rock" Peter and his successors!Follow the Throne of Antioch!
Tradition of Church: Mafia,Hiring Killers and hide them in Church!
Using Charity money to hire Killers!Making False documents or making Holy False Witness!Bribing muslim rulers to get the throne of St.Peter! finally Conversions of Assyrian Christians into Muslims by accepting bribe from Muslim rulers!
Apart from spiritual matters,All Jacobite Parish Churches are free and independant!!!

lajy said...

switch side easy way to gain postion saba has become mnc company people in company leave for smaller company or developing company to get top postion same thing happen here . if he was holy person he would not ran behind postion .thoses who have recently elected in mosc is highly talented person highly qualfied CAN ANY ONE POINT AT US SHOW ANY OF OUR BISHOP NOT HIGHLY EDUCATED ONLY THING JACOBITE LACKING HIGHLY QUALIFIED BISHOP WHO CAN RUN SABA IN BETTER MANNER .JACOBITE ARE SCORING POINTS IN THIS MODERN WORLD POSTION IS ONLY FOR TALENTED PERSON ITS DOES COME WITH OUT HARD WORK

Thomas said...

What is the procedure for ousting soemone form Jacobite Athibhadrasanam?

rambachen, file a CASE against it.
CBI murder case anweshikkunna aal sabhakku dosham onnum cheythittillallo?

Thomas said...

what was rambachen's crime? can Jacobite Athibradrasanam give some reason please?

Dear Editor, Malankankara Orthodox TV

Please investigate and give us a report

THOMAS NINAN

Avarachayan said...

രംബാച്ചന്‍ യാക്കോബായ ഗ്രൂപ്പില്‍ പോയതിനു ശേഷം ആദ്യത്തെ വലിയ നോമ്പ് അല്ലെ. !!!!!! അപ്പോള്‍ മനസ്സിലാക്കാന്‍ കഴിയുന്നത്‌ അല്ലെ ഉള്ളു. രംബാച്ചന്‍ പ്രാര്‍ത്ഥിക്കുന്നത്‌ കണ്ടപ്പോള്‍ പുതെന്‍ കുരിശുകാര്‍ക്ക് ഒന്നും മനസ്സില്‍ ആയി കാണില്ല. അവരുടെ പാരമ്പര്യം ഇതല്ലല്ലോ. പിന്നെ യാക്കോബായക്കാര്‍ ചെയ്യുന്നത് പോലെ ആഷ് പൂഷ് എന്നൊക്കെ ചൊല്ലി പഠിക്കാന്‍ ഈ പ്രായത്തില്‍ രംബാച്ചനെ കൊണ്ട് സാധിക്കുമോ.

Avarachayan said...

എങ്കിലും നമ്മുടെ തോമസ്‌ പ്രഥമനെ സമ്മതിക്കണം. മാനേജിംഗ് കമ്മറ്റി കൂടിയാല്‍ തന്റെ സ്ഥാനം തെറിക്കുമെന്ന് ഉറപ്പായതിനാല്‍ അത് മാറ്റി വച്ച്. ഇനിയൊട്ടു കമ്മിറ്റി വിളിച്ചു കൂട്ടുകയുമില്ല ജീവിച്ചിരിക്കുന്നിടത്തോളം. വിളിച്ചു കൂട്ടിയാല്‍ അത് പ്രഥമന്റെ അന്ത്യവും.

പാവം യാക്കോബായ ഗ്രൂപ്പുകാര്‍. അവരുടെ ഒരു ഗതികെടെ!!! ഒരു കൊലപാതകി എന്ന് കോടതി പോലും സംശയിക്കുന്ന ഒരാളെ തിരുമേനി ആയിട്ട് സ്വീകരിക്കേണ്ടി വരിക. അങ്ങേരാണെങ്കില്‍ ഗദ്ദാഫി കാണിക്കുന്നത് മാതിരി എതിരാളികളെ എല്ലാം കഴുത്തു കണ്ടിച്ചു നശിപ്പിക്കുകയും.

ഇതാണോ ഒരു ക്രിസ്ത്യാനി സഭ. അതോ മുസ്ലീം വിഭാഗത്തിലെ ഷിയാ ഗ്രൂപ്പിനോട് വല്ല ബന്ധവും ഉണ്ടോ.

Geophy said...

Dear all..

We can tell this to the Ramban :" Ikkare Nikkumpol Akkara Pacha.. Akkare Nikkumpol Ikkare Pacha.." Akkare-Ikkare Kadakkunna neram Vellathil Olichu pokathirunnal Nannu.. Illel Rantu Vallathil Kaal vachu Poyathupole Irikkum. Akalumpol mothathhil Keeri pokum.

(Comments on this requested)
George (UK)

Ravi George said...

'Odunna pattikku oru muzhm mumbe'thomas Thirumei erinju ennu mathram. HB knew that Rmabachen would jump

vincent said...

Dear All
This is the trick/game of H.B.Thomas I(chaanakya Thanthram)to deviate the attention of MOSC people from his recent Court Investigation By C.B.I regarding T.M.Varghese murder case authorised by him or his mafia people!
As a Spiritual leader he should come out openly and confess his mistakes before God!He should not forget about Prophet Nathan who convinced King David about his(david's)sin!

nizhal said...

അല്പം തൊലിക്കട്ടിയും ഗുണ്ടായിസവും ഒക്കെ ഉണ്ടെങ്കില്‍ മാത്രമേ യാക്കോബായ സഭയില്‍ നിലനില്‍പ്പുള്ളൂ. പത്രോസ്‌ rambaante കാര്യം കഷ്ടം തന്നെ ! അവിടെയുമില്ല ഇവിടെയുമില്ല ! സന്യാസീ വൃതം സ്വീകരിച്ച വ്യക്തി സ്ഥാനമോഹങ്ങള്‍ക്ക് പിന്നാലെ പോയാല്‍ ഇങ്ങനെ ഇരിക്കും! എല്ലാവര്‍ക്കും ഇതൊരു പാഠം തന്നെ. അദ്ദേഹം തിരിച്ചു വരാന്‍ ആഗ്രഹിക്കുന്നു എങ്കില്‍ സഭയിലെ സീനിയര്‍ മെത്രാച്ചന്മാരുടെ ആരുടെ അടുത്തെങ്കിലും പോയി counselling നടത്തുക. തെറ്റും ശരിയും മനസ്സിലാക്കാന്‍ റമ്പാച്ചനു ഇനിയെങ്കിലും കഴിയട്ടെ.

റമ്പാച്ചനോടുള്ള സഹതാപം രേഖപ്പെടുത്തുന്നു.

Ravi George said...

First let HB Thomas examine his own mind and come out clean on the many charges he is facing.

HB had taken oath on the 1934 constitution, demanded amemendments in Supreme Court, got whatever he wanted, now advocating a vertical split in the Church... I am afriad God Amighty is tightening His noose around Thomas Tirumeni, Only gad can forgiev his sins against Church

Evolution said...

I could see some comments stating Jacobites as stupids and cultureles, at the same time some call them as born before father. Is this is culture which need to be learned?!! And these evils are quoting from bible!! it is written one who call his own brothera stupid should go to fire. everyone is saying about 1934 constitution, which means IOC has got only a history which is leading so much only to 1934?? If that is not the case how can IOC people can say Jacobites are born after 2002. Is there something written there in 1934 constitution about accepting someone from other group, denomination or religion. How can those bishops who alienated from other grups be taken with same status?!! If that is possible why the election and other drama?? Those who fails to get recognition from the church they worked till date, see traitors taking position through back doors. How can a bishop ordain a deacon of another diocese?!! So 1934 constitution is your bible or more than that inside court to get superiority over Jacobites and outside court its been used as tissue paper for own sanitary purpose. A constitution written and accepted is not the foudation of a church,it is the faith and charecter. Constitution may may help in court but not before God if you believe...