യാതൊരു ഉളുപ്പുമില്ലാതെ നാട് റോഡില്‍ കിടന്നു ഉരുണ്ടതും , പച്ച കള്ളം യാതൊരു നാണവുമില്ലാതെ വിളിച്ചു പറയുന്നതുമായ ഒരു തിരുമേനിയുടെ (കേട്ടിട്ടുണ്ട് സീമയില്‍ നിന്നും കിട്ടിയതാണെന്നും പറഞ്ഞു ഒരു പാതിരാത്രിക്ക്‌ സ്വയം ഉണ്ടാക്കി കൊണ്ട് പോയ ചുവപ്പ് കുപ്പായവും , കറുത്ത മുടിയും , പൊക്കം കുറഞ്ഞ വടിയും പിടിച്ചുകൊണ്ടു പാണ്ടി ലോറിയില്‍ വന്നു കോതമംഗലം കവലയില്‍ വന്നിരങ്ങിയെന്നു .) സ്വന്തം കുഞ്ഞാടുകളല്ലേ. അപ്പോള്‍ ഇതല്ല, ഇതിന്റെ അപ്പുറവും പ്രതീക്ഷിക്കാം.
Viswasasamrakshan is not a spiritual Magazine/publication.This internet media is only trying to cover up misdeeds of their heirearchy/extremists and always try to blame other media or publications to convince their follwers that they are only the faultless people/and the true believers of Christ in Kerala/India.They always accuse Manorama as they claim to be an Indian orthodox publication which the mass in kerala know the real facts.The publishers of Viswasasamrakshakan are behaving like Hypocrites(Pharesse/scribes) during Jesus time.The poeple in Kerala can realise and identify the reality.
I have never seen anything written against the Jacobite Church by Manorama. They always sided them and only when other papers report 100% of the fact these guys report 10%. Obviously due to the circulation, people read it. If Manorama is the leading news paper in Kerala, let us not ignore the contribution of the 70% Hindus and 20% Muslims in the State of Kerala. The Jacobites feel like the Kingfisher's tail. You can fool people for some time but not always.This is what the Jacobites are facing now. Truth will prevail. If they had a bit of common sense will they ever propagate that Malankara Varghese had died due to Heartatack! If at all Manorama had to report real facts on the Malankara Varghese case like other news agencies do, this so called Jacobites would have not had a hand bunch of people to follow themm under their fanatic leader.
ഹലോ ജോബി, എന്റെ ഏതു വാചകം ആണ് ഇഷ്ടപെടാത്തത് ? അസത്യമായത് എന്തെങ്ങിലും ഉണ്ടെങ്കില്‍ തിരുത്തി തരിക. പിന്നെ എന്റെ ഭാഷ ഞാനൊരു ഒറിജിനല്‍ വടക്കന്‍ ജില്ലക്കാരന്‍ ആയതു കൊണ്ടാണ് . ഒരു ഒറിജിനല്‍ patriarchese സഭാ വിശ്വാസി ആയിരുന്നു. ഇപ്പോള്‍ അല്ല.
ഹലോ Eldho , ഇതിനെ സംശയ രോഗം എന്നോ അപകര്‍ഷത ബോധം എന്നോ പറയാം . വിവരമില്ലത്തവര്‍ക്ക് സംഭവിക്കുന്ന രോഗമാണ് ഇത്. അതായതു വിദ്യാഭ്യാസം ഉണ്ടായാലും വിവരം ഉണ്ടായില്ലെങ്ങില്‍ കാര്യമില്ല. ഇത് തന്നെയാണ് തോമസ്‌ പ്രഥമനും ഇപ്പോഴും പറഞ്ഞു നടക്കുന്നത്. വിവരം വന്നു പോയാല്‍ പിന്നെ പുത്തെന്‍കുരിശു സൊസൈറ്റി ഇല്ലല്ലോ . അതുകൊണ്ട് തോമസ്‌ ബാവയ്ക്ക് ഇങ്ങനെ കുറെ ആള്‍ക്കാര്‍ വേണം . പാവങ്ങള്‍ , എന്നെകിലും സത്യം ബോധ്യപ്പെടും . അപ്പോള്‍ മനസിലാവും , അനുതപിക്കും .
Eldose, Good enthusiasm, May be Manorama will resort to begging? So sad. Any way give a try. Atleast you should stop reading Manorama. Forget the rest. Also start distributing Viswasamrakshan around the world including Antioch & Syria
I sympathise with you. Your Church's policies are too short sighted. I can very well predict Jacobite members flowing into other faiths inlcluding Orthodox Church in the forseable future.
Anyone in the media and their friends know how Jacobite leaders deal with media. Your manipulations may work for sometime but not for ever. You think you can murder and get away with it without anybody talking about it or reporting by media?
Have you ever observed faiths being challenged in Northern part of Ernakulam just like it experienced in the South? You think you can withstand the days? I'm sure Jacobite fort will be shattered soon.
Do you have any process in your Church for decsion making except that it is taken in an autocratic way by a single person? Do you the know way how your bishops are chosen? Do you appreciate that Chaveliers, commanders,.. are for sale in your CHURCH?
Maybe you can manipulate politicians or people in power. But remember you will pay heavy price for it later. I know each time Jacobite leaders got away, maybe this time too. But truth will remian as TRUTH and it will prevail in the end. Whatever is done with evil motive will come haunting you. The Bible says (Romans Chapter 1:18) Annethikondu sathyatthe thadukkunna manushyarude sakala abhakthikkum nere daivathinte kopam swargathil ninnu velippettu varunnu. I talk this because I have friends in the Jacobite group who are completely disappointed by your leader's ungodly ways.
You people need not be Christians, if you choose to be. BUT PLEASE DON'T BE EVIL.
Studenst of history know what fate awaits dictators. Who is the dictator? Unfortunately soem Jacabite followers have put their faith in one person. The sad part is: that person is not Christ.
വളരെ ശരിയാണ് സജു , ഇങ്ങനെ തിരഞ്ഞെടുത്ത മെത്രാന്മാരെ ഇവര്‍ എന്താണ് ചെയ്യുന്നത് എന്നറിയാമോ ? മീനങ്ങാടിയില്‍ നിന്നും ഒരാളെ തുണി പോലും എടുക്കാന്‍ അവസരം കൊടുക്കാതെ ഓടിച്ചു, ഒരു മെത്രാന് പണിയൊന്നും ഇല്ലാത്തതിനാല്‍ ഡാമില്‍ കള്ള ചൂണ്ട ഇടാന്‍ പോയി,അവിടെയും അങ്ങേരു തനി നിറം പുറത്തെടുത്തു, അവരെ പഠിപ്പിച്ചു വിട്ടത് പോലെ നിരോധിത മേഖലയില്‍ അതിക്രമിച്ചു കയറി ആയിരുന്നു തവള പിടുത്തം. പോലിസ് പിടിയിലായി,അവിടെയും തോമസ്‌ ബാവയുടെ ട്രെയിനിംഗ് തുണയായി. പെട്ടെന്ന് തന്നെ പെണ്ണുങ്ങളെ പോലെ പൂങ്കണ്ണീര്‍ ഒഴുക്കി. പോലിസ് ഏമാന്മാര്‍ അതില്‍ വീണു. ഒരു മെത്രാന്, കുന്നംകുളത്, എങ്ങിനെയാണ് ധൂപ പ്രാര്‍ത്ഥന ചൊല്ലേണ്ടത് എന്ന് അറിയാത്തതിനാല്‍ ഇടവക ക്കാരുടെ അടി കിട്ടി.
That was a good one Saju "boycotting malankara orthodox.tv". Atleast they should leave it for the so called methrankashi to sort out their differences. Does any of our people get into their blog and write other than they manipulating it!
But I think we should appreciate people like Mr Eldhos visiting and conveying his views. I know lot many good people in the jacobite Church who are really sad that there is a division in the Church. They do not agree with the views of some Jacobite leaders that the Church (Body of Christ) should be split into two . (In fact that is what Roman soldiers did when they crucified our LORD.) How can we do this if teh faith is ONE. We think we should love our jacobite brothers and help them to stand for one faith, one churh of our Lord. The division is due to the greed of some leaders who do not want to go by law.
When teh Supreme Court called for the Malankara Association as per teh wishes of both Orthodox and Jacobite with amendemnts as per the demands of the Jacbote leades, it was boycotted by Jacobite leaders and then met at Puthencruz. Why was it necessary if they had majority of people standing with them.
jacobiet leaders were ready for no compromise. If you take last two years Manorama newspaper you will find at least two press releases in a week demanding a division of SABHA, the body of Christ. Also 'PRARTHANA YAJNAM' on a daily basis
EE DRAMAKAL ETHRANAL MUNNOTTU NATAKKUM? Once HB Thomas bava declared that he i squitting. Soon there is a flow of requests an dharnas demanding his leadership for ever. Iddheham rashtreeythil ayirunnenkil...Indiayude PM aayene. But God looks at hearts and HE CAN KNOW WHAT IS IN IT.
In fact catholics encourage these divisions in our Church so that they can kill Orthodox faith. They are like wolves who encourage goats to fight....Rome encourages Syro (romo)Malankara to swallow our believers. BUt should know all these politics as Christ prewarned us.
Dear Eldos, How many of your peoples actually subscribe Mathrubhoomi? How many of your memebers at least see Mathrubhoomi? Forget the rest, Do you read mathrubhoomi?
Viswasamarakshkan says There are at leat 1.5 lakhs Jacobites who subscribe Manorama. Then why don't they say the number of Mathrubhoomi subscribes? There will not be even 100 Jacobite people who subscribe Mathrubhhomi. Even 1 per cent of Jacobites are not mathrubhoomi readers.
Anyone can understand this is only a trick to manipulate media. Poor Mathrubhoomi, they think that they can get more Jacobite readers by publishing what Jacobite leaders feed them with.
Can some one find out the number of Jacobites working for Manorama. I can guarantee they outnumber any other Christian denomination people working for Manorama. Why Manorama, take Aban, MRF, MMFoam, Muthoot group including, Papapachen group, Mini Muthoot etc. They all have employees from the Jacobite Church. At the same time find out how many Orthodox people working for Kitex or Anna Aluminium? Even people who go abroad prefer to go to an Orthodox Church. Only a few fanatics get into the Puthencruz cult.
The field where Jacobites are focussing is Kochi where the High Court is situated. Unfortunatly we are yet to understand the importance of Kochi. If we want our church to emerge as successful we should have an Orthodox center with media facilities in Kochi. Ireanious Thirumeni has some plans.
With or with out their own people,jacobites have got connections in media. But we should not do their style of manipulation as it is not successful in the long term.
We should have a good office in Kochi city to manage our legal and media affairs. Somebody should convice our Church leaders about the importance of Kochi. It is wide to move our Vartha patrika office to Kochi.
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യാതൊരു ഉളുപ്പുമില്ലാതെ നാട് റോഡില്‍ കിടന്നു ഉരുണ്ടതും , പച്ച കള്ളം യാതൊരു നാണവുമില്ലാതെ വിളിച്ചു പറയുന്നതുമായ ഒരു തിരുമേനിയുടെ (കേട്ടിട്ടുണ്ട് സീമയില്‍ നിന്നും കിട്ടിയതാണെന്നും പറഞ്ഞു ഒരു പാതിരാത്രിക്ക്‌ സ്വയം ഉണ്ടാക്കി കൊണ്ട് പോയ ചുവപ്പ് കുപ്പായവും , കറുത്ത മുടിയും , പൊക്കം കുറഞ്ഞ വടിയും പിടിച്ചുകൊണ്ടു പാണ്ടി ലോറിയില്‍ വന്നു കോതമംഗലം കവലയില്‍ വന്നിരങ്ങിയെന്നു .) സ്വന്തം കുഞ്ഞാടുകളല്ലേ. അപ്പോള്‍ ഇതല്ല, ഇതിന്റെ അപ്പുറവും പ്രതീക്ഷിക്കാം.
Viswasasamrakshan is not a spiritual Magazine/publication.This internet media is only trying to cover up misdeeds of their heirearchy/extremists and always try to blame other media or publications to convince their follwers that they are only the faultless people/and the true believers of Christ in Kerala/India.They always accuse Manorama as they claim to be an Indian orthodox publication which the mass in kerala know the real facts.The publishers of Viswasasamrakshakan are behaving like Hypocrites(Pharesse/scribes) during Jesus time.The poeple in Kerala can realise and identify the reality.
I have never seen anything written against the Jacobite Church by Manorama. They always sided them and only when other papers report 100% of the fact these guys report 10%. Obviously due to the circulation, people read it. If Manorama is the leading news paper in Kerala, let us not ignore the contribution of the 70% Hindus and 20% Muslims in the State of Kerala. The Jacobites feel like the Kingfisher's tail. You can fool people for some time but not always.This is what the Jacobites are facing now. Truth will prevail. If they had a bit of common sense will they ever propagate that Malankara Varghese had died due to Heartatack! If at all Manorama had to report real facts on the Malankara Varghese case like other news agencies do, this so called Jacobites would have not had a hand bunch of people to follow themm under their fanatic leader.
വര്‍ഗീസ്‌ ചേട്ടന്‍ മരിച്ചത് ഹാര്‍ട്ട്‌ അറ്റാക്ക്‌ മൂലമാണെന്ന് എഴുതി പിടിപ്പിച്ചവരല്ലേ ............കഷ്ടം !!!!!!
MANORAMA ACTS LIKE A ORTHADOX CHURCH MAGAZINE SO WE AVOID MANORAMA AND SELECT MATHRUBUMI-
BETHEL SULOKO JACOBITE CATHEDRAL YOUTH ASSOCIATION
Avarachayan,
I can't agree with your words, I would like to know your native Church?
ഹലോ ജോബി,
എന്റെ ഏതു വാചകം ആണ് ഇഷ്ടപെടാത്തത് ? അസത്യമായത് എന്തെങ്ങിലും ഉണ്ടെങ്കില്‍ തിരുത്തി തരിക. പിന്നെ എന്റെ ഭാഷ ഞാനൊരു ഒറിജിനല്‍ വടക്കന്‍ ജില്ലക്കാരന്‍ ആയതു കൊണ്ടാണ് . ഒരു ഒറിജിനല്‍ patriarchese സഭാ വിശ്വാസി ആയിരുന്നു. ഇപ്പോള്‍ അല്ല.
ഹലോ Eldho ,
ഇതിനെ സംശയ രോഗം എന്നോ അപകര്‍ഷത ബോധം എന്നോ പറയാം . വിവരമില്ലത്തവര്‍ക്ക് സംഭവിക്കുന്ന രോഗമാണ് ഇത്. അതായതു വിദ്യാഭ്യാസം ഉണ്ടായാലും വിവരം ഉണ്ടായില്ലെങ്ങില്‍ കാര്യമില്ല. ഇത് തന്നെയാണ് തോമസ്‌ പ്രഥമനും ഇപ്പോഴും പറഞ്ഞു നടക്കുന്നത്. വിവരം വന്നു പോയാല്‍ പിന്നെ പുത്തെന്‍കുരിശു സൊസൈറ്റി ഇല്ലല്ലോ . അതുകൊണ്ട് തോമസ്‌ ബാവയ്ക്ക് ഇങ്ങനെ കുറെ ആള്‍ക്കാര്‍ വേണം . പാവങ്ങള്‍ , എന്നെകിലും സത്യം ബോധ്യപ്പെടും . അപ്പോള്‍ മനസിലാവും , അനുതപിക്കും .
Eldose, Good enthusiasm,
May be Manorama will resort to begging? So sad.
Any way give a try. Atleast you should stop reading Manorama. Forget the rest. Also start distributing Viswasamrakshan around the world including Antioch & Syria
Dear Mr Eldhos:
I sympathise with you. Your Church's policies are too short sighted. I can very well predict Jacobite members flowing into other faiths inlcluding Orthodox Church in the forseable future.
Anyone in the media and their friends know how Jacobite leaders deal with media. Your manipulations may work for sometime but not for ever. You think you can murder and get away with it without anybody talking about it or reporting by media?
Have you ever observed faiths being challenged in Northern part of Ernakulam just like it experienced in the South? You think you can withstand the days? I'm sure Jacobite fort will be shattered soon.
Do you have any process in your Church for decsion making except that it is taken in an autocratic way by a single person? Do you the know way how your bishops are chosen? Do you appreciate that Chaveliers, commanders,.. are for sale in your CHURCH?
Maybe you can manipulate politicians or people in power. But remember you will pay heavy price for it later. I know each time Jacobite leaders got away, maybe this time too. But truth will remian as TRUTH and it will prevail in the end. Whatever is done with evil motive will come haunting you. The Bible says (Romans Chapter 1:18) Annethikondu sathyatthe thadukkunna manushyarude sakala abhakthikkum nere daivathinte kopam swargathil ninnu velippettu varunnu. I talk this because I have friends in the Jacobite group who are completely disappointed by your leader's ungodly ways.
You people need not be Christians, if you choose to be. BUT PLEASE DON'T BE EVIL.
Studenst of history know what fate awaits dictators. Who is the dictator? Unfortunately soem Jacabite followers have put their faith in one person. The sad part is: that person is not Christ.
FOLLOW THE TRUE LEADER, my dear brethren.
I'm surprised that jacobites have not told that they'll boycot malankaraorhtodox.tv if they continue to publish news related to Malankara varghese.
What Jcobite leader expect from media is the standard of VISWASAMRAKSHAKAN, an publication.
വളരെ ശരിയാണ് സജു ,
ഇങ്ങനെ തിരഞ്ഞെടുത്ത മെത്രാന്മാരെ ഇവര്‍ എന്താണ് ചെയ്യുന്നത് എന്നറിയാമോ ?
മീനങ്ങാടിയില്‍ നിന്നും ഒരാളെ തുണി പോലും എടുക്കാന്‍ അവസരം കൊടുക്കാതെ ഓടിച്ചു, ഒരു മെത്രാന് പണിയൊന്നും ഇല്ലാത്തതിനാല്‍ ഡാമില്‍ കള്ള ചൂണ്ട ഇടാന്‍ പോയി,അവിടെയും അങ്ങേരു തനി നിറം പുറത്തെടുത്തു, അവരെ പഠിപ്പിച്ചു വിട്ടത് പോലെ നിരോധിത മേഖലയില്‍ അതിക്രമിച്ചു കയറി ആയിരുന്നു തവള പിടുത്തം. പോലിസ് പിടിയിലായി,അവിടെയും തോമസ്‌ ബാവയുടെ ട്രെയിനിംഗ് തുണയായി. പെട്ടെന്ന് തന്നെ പെണ്ണുങ്ങളെ പോലെ പൂങ്കണ്ണീര്‍ ഒഴുക്കി. പോലിസ് ഏമാന്മാര്‍ അതില്‍ വീണു. ഒരു മെത്രാന്, കുന്നംകുളത്, എങ്ങിനെയാണ് ധൂപ പ്രാര്‍ത്ഥന ചൊല്ലേണ്ടത് എന്ന് അറിയാത്തതിനാല്‍ ഇടവക ക്കാരുടെ അടി കിട്ടി.
That was a good one Saju "boycotting malankara orthodox.tv". Atleast they should leave it for the so called methrankashi to sort out their differences. Does any of our people get into their blog and write other than they manipulating it!
@ avrachan ..Ha Ha...thavala alla meen aanu pidikkaan poyathu at peechi dam..Yousebios Kuriakkose...pinne doopaprarthana prasnam undaayathu Chalissery palliyil....
Dear Philip
But I think we should appreciate people like Mr Eldhos visiting and conveying his views. I know lot many good people in the jacobite Church who are really sad that there is a division in the Church. They do not agree with the views of some Jacobite leaders that the Church (Body of Christ) should be split into two . (In fact that is what Roman soldiers did when they crucified our LORD.) How can we do this if teh faith is ONE. We think we should love our jacobite brothers and help them to stand for one faith, one churh of our Lord. The division is due to the greed of some leaders who do not want to go by law.
When teh Supreme Court called for the Malankara Association as per teh wishes of both Orthodox and Jacobite with amendemnts as per the demands of the Jacbote leades, it was boycotted by Jacobite leaders and then met at Puthencruz. Why was it necessary if they had majority of people standing with them.
jacobiet leaders were ready for no compromise. If you take last two years Manorama newspaper you will find at least two press releases in a week demanding a division of SABHA, the body of Christ. Also 'PRARTHANA YAJNAM' on a daily basis
EE DRAMAKAL ETHRANAL MUNNOTTU NATAKKUM?
Once HB Thomas bava declared that he i squitting. Soon there is a flow of requests an dharnas demanding his leadership for ever. Iddheham rashtreeythil ayirunnenkil...Indiayude PM aayene. But God looks at hearts and HE CAN KNOW WHAT IS IN IT.
In fact catholics encourage these divisions in our Church so that they can kill Orthodox faith. They are like wolves who encourage goats to fight....Rome encourages Syro (romo)Malankara to swallow our believers. BUt should know all these politics as Christ prewarned us.
Dear Eldos, How many of your peoples actually subscribe Mathrubhoomi? How many of your memebers at least see Mathrubhoomi? Forget the rest, Do you read mathrubhoomi?
Viswasamarakshkan says There are at leat 1.5 lakhs Jacobites who subscribe Manorama. Then why don't they say the number of Mathrubhoomi subscribes? There will not be even 100 Jacobite people who subscribe Mathrubhhomi. Even 1 per cent of Jacobites are not mathrubhoomi readers.
Anyone can understand this is only a trick to manipulate media.
Poor Mathrubhoomi, they think that they can get more Jacobite readers by publishing what Jacobite leaders feed them with.
Can some one find out the number of Jacobites working for Manorama. I can guarantee they outnumber any other Christian denomination people working for Manorama. Why Manorama, take Aban, MRF, MMFoam, Muthoot group including, Papapachen group, Mini Muthoot etc. They all have employees from the Jacobite Church. At the same time find out how many Orthodox people working for Kitex or Anna Aluminium? Even people who go abroad prefer to go to an Orthodox Church. Only a few fanatics get into the Puthencruz cult.
The field where Jacobites are focussing is Kochi where the High Court is situated. Unfortunatly we are yet to understand the importance of Kochi. If we want our church to emerge as successful we should have an Orthodox center with media facilities in Kochi. Ireanious Thirumeni has some plans.
With or with out their own people,jacobites have got connections in media. But we should not do their style of manipulation as it is not successful in the long term.
We should have a good office in Kochi city to manage our legal and media affairs. Somebody should convice our Church leaders about the importance of Kochi. It is wide to move our Vartha patrika office to Kochi.
Thekke karayil ninnu kuruttu bhuthiyude aasaan thoma chettante thilanghunna chuvanna kuppayathinte ullil abhayam prabhichirikkunna pavam varghese achan ennu parayunna athi buthimane kurichulla vaartha manorama akathe pagil koduthappol, avar nallapilla. Kodathy paranja, ulaa kariyanghalathupole ezhuthiyappol Manorama cheetha pillayumayi. Enthoru virodhabhaasam......Ee oru kariyam mathram Inghane puthen cruz societykku ethirayi vannathu paranjappol, kondu alle? Appol kodathy parayunna kaariyanghal societykku anukoolamayi ezhuthanamennano? Malayala Manorama Orthodox Sabhakku Anukoolamo, Ennal Ethiro alla. Onnukoody chinthichaal Puthen cruz societykku Alppam Anukoolamanu Thaanummmm......Ithu Ee oru kariyam kondu mathram, Pettennu Marakkathe Vidhesa Vaadhikaleeeeeee............ Pinne Mar Polikkarppose anathikruthamayi Thamassikkunnu Ennu Eppozhum Chilakkathe Chuna Undenkil Irakki Vidan Nokku...Appol Ariyam Vivarammmmm. Hhoooo....Ippozhenkilum societiyil 1.5 lakhs Aalkkare Ullu Ennu Sammathichallo, Aaswasamayiiiiiiiiiii.........
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