Friday, June 18, 2010

Mar Severios Moosa Gurgan consecrated 2 Bishops from Puthenkurisu Society

Anthiochian Orthodox Church Primate H.E. Mar Severios Mosus Gurgan consecrated two priests as Metropolitans at New Delhi on June 17. Yuhanon Mar Thimothios and Mathews Mar Gregorios are the new bishops. Yuhanon Ramban was the Manager of Manjanikkara Dayara. He was the Manager of Benyamin Joseph Mar Osthathios (Secretary of HH Yacob III & HH Zakka I ). He is the Member of St.Johns Church, Rajakumari. Fr. C.G. Mathews is the Superior of St. Jude Monastry, Kottayam and Chief Editor of Thadevoos Magazine. The ordination was done on June 17th becasue it is the 6th Memorial feast day of Benyamin Joseph Mar Osthathios Metropolitan. It is the second time a Jacobite Priest become a Metropolitan of Anthiochian Orthodox Church. Earlier a Ramban of Jacobite Church Consecrated for Anthiochian Orthodox Church on last March.

H. H. The Catholicos Didymus I's Kalpana about Mathews Mar Gregorios and Mar Severios Moses Gurgan.

70 comments:

Biju K. John said...

Kothi Kothi Murathil Kayari Kothan Thudangiyallo!!! Nammude Niyuktha Bavayum Severios Thirumeniyum Koody Oru Pani Angottu Koduthappol Purake Purake Pani Varunnallo!!! Adutha Synodil Vanna Methranmare Kollan Randu Perkkum Karanam Kitty!!!

rajanthomas said...

The thadhevoos was campaigning for H.G.Mor Sevarios Goorgan.He (the priest) is A good fisherman ("KaLakkavellathil meen Pidikkan" pattita aal thanne). If H.G. Mor.Goorgan was Consecrated originally for Independant Orthodox Church of Europe how come He consecrate bishop for Malankara Sabha?Who gave him the power.The orthodox Episcopal synod should explain this to its members

Varghese said...

who consecrated the Ramban Gurgan as the metropolitan. What step take our synod against the bishops Athanesiuos & Militheous. Bhasmasuranu varam kodutha polayi Alle. Ha ha ha.

Shaji K said...

vadi koduthu adi vangi

mathan said...

mar gurgan vadi kittiappol ellavaraeyum vazikkan thudanjie. ennickum onnu Aboon ayie kollam ennu oru agraham. Mar Gurgan onnu kananam

Oru Sabha orale purathakkumbol allaenkil sthanam kittathae varumbol varae oru Sabhayil chadunna reethi ippol kandu varunnundu. Anganae yullavar evidaeyum tharikada kanikkum.

Parumala Kochu thirumeniyudaeyum parishuddan marudae madyastha prarthana kodum nallavarae purohithan marum, thirumenimarum yullathu kondu Orthodox & jacobite sabhakal nashikkathae nilkkunnu

Avarachayan said...

എനിക്കും ഇപ്പോള്‍ ഒരു മെത്രാന്‍ ആയാല്‍ കൊള്ളാമെന്നുണ്ട്. കാലത്തിനൊത് തുള്ളണമല്ലോ

Nice Up said...

I don't understand Malayalam too well, but Shaji K's comment should be universally understood, and if I'm not mistaken, it is essentially "We reap what we sow." Personally, i don't see the issue as a threat and we should remember that our leaders were at one point in accordance with H.E. Mar Severios Musa Gorgun's ordination.

It should serve as a reminder that it is better to seek, meditate, pray, and take the steps toward a path of reconciliation with our brothers and sisters by embarking on the True Path of Christ rather than trying to perpetuate a century old dispute of rhetoric, violence, and silly litigation. Our own church fathers who we ask for intercession through prayers told us this decades upon decades ago, but we continue to let ourselves be taken into the games that benefit only a few.

mathan said...

Appol puthiya Metran Fr. C G mathews Akum allaeee.

Pakkutha illatha oruthannae Metran akkiyal enganaeyirikkum. 29 vayasu allae yullu. Athintae chora thillappu kanikkum.

Choraeyum neerum pattumbol Metran Manasil akum.

Daevam Padippichu Kollum. Pithakkan marudae Vaedana Avarudaemael yirikkkum.

YELDHO PETER said...

YeldhoPeter
That is fine we need a bishop for USA too. He is a good fisherman and go too beat mar Ivanois of rith

Philip said...

There is no point in blaming Mar Militis and Mar Athanasios. Where they not originally ordained by H.H Zakka to tackle our Church and create division. Now they realised that ploy lately and came back to the main stream. They now tried to help some of the Syrians and see the result.
What we need to realise is these so called Antiochian Syrians will only create division be it under Zakka or Gurgaon. Why don't we dump them and unite under the Malankra Metropolitan.
That is the only remedy to tackle this issue instead of mud slanging.

Sreshten said...

എന്തൊരു ബഹളമായിരുന്നു ഓര്‍ത്ത്ഡോക്സ്‌ സഭയില്‍ നിന്ന് മൂന്ന് മേത്രാന്മാരെ
വാഴിക്കും എന്ന് പറഞ്ഞ്‌. അവസാനം സംഭവീച്ചതോ മഞ്നിക്കര ദയറായുടെ മുന്‍
മാനേജറൂം ഓര്‍ത്ത്‌ഡോക്സ്‌ സഭ വര്‍ഷങള്‍ക്ക്‌ മുന്‍പ്‌ മുടക്കിയ ഒരു കത്ത്നാരൂ മേത്രാനായി. ആര്‍ക്കാണ് മണ്ടത്ത്‌റം പറ്റിയത്‌. വിണ്ടും ബഹളം വക്കുനു. ആര്‍ക്കറിയാം
എന്താണ് സംഭവിക്കാന്‍ പോകുന്നതെന്ന് ?

Thomas said...

With the Consecration of two more bishops for the Antiochian Syriac Orthodox Church, for the Indian territory, we can expect a large influx of the believers of both Jacobite and Orthodox groups, along with Dr Thomas Mar Athanasios and Dr.Yuhanon Mar Militios and few priests, with the expectation of some benefits from Germany, as it was a few decades ago,milk powder provided by one of the christian community.

Shelley John said...

1995 il Delhiyil Vachu Paulos Gregorios Thirumeni C. G. Mathews Achanodu Paranju "Ethiopia yil Chennu Ente Peru Cheetha Aakkaruthennu." Fr. John Panicker (Mar Dioscoros) Ithu Parayumpol Koottathil Undayirunnu. Ethiopia yil Chennulla Kathakal Ariyanamenkil Thirumeniyodo Ethiopian Seminary yil Pinneedu Padippikkan Poya Achanmarodo Chodhichal Mathy.

Nattil Vannu Pavam Ivanios Thirumeniye Pattichu koode Koody. Oduvil thirumeniye Cheetha Vilichu avide Ninnirangy. Ivanios Thirumeniyeyum K M George Achaneyum Cheetha Vilikkan Thadhevoos Thudangy.

Osthathios Thirumeniye Cheetha Vilichu Ezhuthiyathinanu Suspend Chaithathu. Ithokkeyanu CG Charitham.

Paulos Gregorios Thirumeniyude Pizhachupoya Sishyanmaril oral Koody... Fr. Puthuppally, Fr. Vaidyan, Mar Mathews ...., Fr. C. G.

Thomas said...

Shelly Ezhuthiyapole Ennu Mikhiya Sabha Netruthathinu vendiyadh C.G pole ullavare annu.Avante Kayil Panam Undagil Endh Pokritharam Kaanichalum Avane Verudhe Vittekhom,alla engil netruthathvine nilla nilppu illa.

Shelley John said...

C G Bishopine Mudakkuvan Devalokathu Theerumanamayathayi ariyunnu.

Thomas said...

Shelly Eniyum Endhu Thirumanamannu vendiyadh,Avante agrahaprakaram avannum kitti masanspa,chuvanna kuppayam,vadi,sleeba.Eniyum devalokam thirumanichalum avane onnum povilla.

Avarachayan said...

എന്തിനാണ് സഹോദരങ്ങളെ ഇത്രയ്ക്കു വ്യാകുലപ്പെടുന്നത്‌, ? ഇവിടെ സഭാവിശ്വാസികള്‍ കള്ളവാറ്റു നടത്തുന്നവരുണ്ട്, കഞ്ചാവ് വില്പനക്കാരും ഉപയോഗിക്കുന്നവരുമുണ്ട്, ഭാര്യയുള്ളപ്പോള്‍ പറ സ്ത്രീകളുടെ കൂടെ വസിക്കുന്നവരുണ്ട്, എന്തിനു- ഗുണ്ടകള്‍ വരെയുണ്ട്. അതിലൊന്നും ആര്‍കും ഒരു പരാതിയുമില്ലേ. ഓരോ പള്ളി കമ്മിറ്റി നോക്കിയാലും മനസ്സിലാകും. എന്തെ, അവരോടു എതിര്‍ത്താല്‍ തല്ലു കൊളളും അല്ലെ. പിന്നെ ആരെങ്ങിലും ഒക്കെ മെത്രാന്‍ ആയാല്‍ എന്ത് കുഴപ്പം ?

Avarachayan said...

ഇവിടെ ആണ് Fr.Shebali യുടെ ലേഖനത്തിന് പ്രസക്തി. ആത്മാര്‍ഥതയോടെ ആണ് അത് എഴുതിയത് എങ്കില്‍ , സഭയിലെ വൈദികരോക്കെ ഒരു തീരുമാനമെടുതാല്‍ നന്ന്. എല്ലാ ഞായറാഴ്ചയും വി. കുര്‍ബാന മദ്ധ്യേ - ഒരു അര മണിക്കൂര്‍ നമ്മുടെ ആരാധനയെ കുറിച്ചും, വി. കുര്‍ബാന ആരംഭം മുതല്‍ അതിന്റെ അര്‍ത്ഥവും ( നമ്മള്‍ ദൈവമേ നീ പരിശുദ്ധനാകുന്നു ---- എന്നുള്ള പ്രാര്‍ത്ഥന ചൊല്ലുന്നു . എത്ര പേര്‍ക്ക് അതിന്റെ പൊരുളും ഉറവിടവും അറിയാം. ) വിശദീകരിച്ചാല്‍ നന്നയിരിക്കു. അല്ലാതെ കുറെ പുസ്തകങ്ങള്‍ പ്രസിദ്ധീകരിച്ചത് കൊണ്ട് എന്ത് പ്രയോജനം.

Avarachayan said...

എങ്ങിനെ ആണ് വിശ്വാസികള്‍ സഭയോട് മരുതലിക്കാന്‍ ഇട വരുന്നത്? നമ്മുടെ ഏതെങ്കിലും ഒരു പാവപ്പെട്ടവന് മാരക അസുഖങ്ങളോ , ബുദ്ധിമുട്ടുകളോ വന്നാല്‍ ആരെങ്ങിലും തിരിഞ്ഞു നോക്കാറുണ്ടോ. പക്ഷെ ആ പാവപ്പെട്ടവന്‍ മനസ്സമാധാനത്തിനു വേണ്ടി വല്ല ധ്യാനതിനോ ( പ്രത്യേകിച്ച് CRF പോലെ ) മറ്റോ പോയാല്‍ അപ്പോള്‍ കാണാം സഭാ സ്നേഹം !!!!! അപ്പോള്‍ അമേരിക്കയില്‍ സന്ദര്‍ശനത്തില്‍ ആയിരിക്കുന്ന തിരുമേനി പോലും പ്രത്യക്ഷപ്പെടും. അവനെ മുടക്കാന്‍. എന്നിട്ട് ഇടവകക്കാരുടെ പ്രീതി പിടിച്ചു പറ്റാന്‍ കസേരയില്‍ ഇരുന്നു കൊണ്ട് Golden സ്ലീബ ഉയര്‍ത്തി ഒരു വാഴ്വും പ്രസംഗവും. !!!!!!!! എന്ന് ഈ മനസ്ഥിതി മാറുമോ അന്ന് സഭ നന്നാകും.

GEORGE said...

H.G. Mor.Goorgan consecrate bishop for Malankara Sabha? Who gave him the power.The orthodox Episcopal synod should explain this to its members.(Uppu thennavan vellom kudikkum)

sabu said...

very good. Congraduations for new Bishop.

sabu said...

aarokkeyanu adutha puthiya 5methrachan.

Shelley John said...

Ernakulathu 40 Lakh aanu Methranakan Rate. Gurgan Thirumeniyude Rate Ethrayanavo!!! Atho Pathrikkeesavan Chumma Kodukkuvano?

Avarachayan said...
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Avarachayan said...

Mar Severios Moosa Gurgan പാത്രിര്കീസാകാന്‍ ശ്രമം നടത്തുന്നതാണ്. സുക്ഷിക്കുക . അന്റോകിയ പാത്രിയാര്‍കീസ് എന്ന പേരും വച്ച് ഞാനാണ് ഒറിജിനല്‍ എന്ന് കാണിക്കാനാണ്.

Suraj Iype said...

Adipoli. What thirst and burning desire to be humble workers in the vineyard of the Lord.

Just think af all the charity projects all these thirumenis will do ; how many people will benefit! How many will gain employment.
Ithuokke alle Christian witness.

Besides if KP Yohannan "Metrapolita" wants to become Catholicos-Patriarch of India and Nepal and Sri Lanka and Burma all these newly anointed Bishops will be such a help. No need to give money to CSI bishops for "doubtful" kaiveppu.

Truly the workers are many but -oops- the harvest is very little.

That there 4 achens were not there to lift these "newly anointed" on a chair and there was not one layman except the photographer( I wonder if one the bishops was the photographer) to say Oxios was the only problem.

But if any american or german funds start flowing even that can be addressed.
Enthinu if " Mar" Cassianus can arrange a visa for some achens from malabar or idukki, enough malankara achens to create a 2 new Antiochian-Indian- Syriac- Jacobite- Malankara- Orthodox diocese in America can be found.
Enkanelum Rakshapadende sahodara.

Anyway good time to become a priest or bishop. All the sidelined Orthodox-Jacobite Achens know whom to contact now.

Now Please dont post that our synod is deciding to excommunicate Rev CG Mathews. Were the Fathers of the Synod sleeping when he was writing all nonsense in Thadevoos.
Besides even our Achens are calling these uncanonically consecrated ones Mar this and Mar that and His Eminence and His Beatitude.
Arude Eminence, entho Beatitude? Arude Mar, ente Mar alla ketto.

Suraj Iype said...

Also this was not exacly secret.

10 days before a friend had called from Kerala with the news that 2 new bishops were going to be consecrated by Severios Moosa. CG Mathews was one of the names he said.

Another veteran well known Orthodox priest was also named. Perhaps in the next batch then.

Philip said...

Yes Suraj,
There is one more priest. May be he is the the same one you have in mind. He is now in Germany. I don't simply understand what the heck do you get out of this gown? The communist can feel proud seeing so many commodores in their color in Kerala. Tomorrow,it will be difficult to find an Achen, but it will be easy to find a Metran. Just like we advise our teenage daughters, it is time that we advise our celebate priest who have a bit of moral left with them, Acho, take care. don't get into the trap or you may loose your celibecy through this type of ordination.
Hope this lot of red gown holders go and give some guru dakshina to Thomas Pradham, who is the first to get ordained in the 20th century. In the 19th century it was Palakunnathu. See every ordination has a Syrian touch. What a legacy we are carrying. No wonder the PC Society has dumbed the word syria and call out Ammaya maranallum Antioch Kyahe marakoola

Philip said...

I don't have any hope in the IOC administration with regard to they taking action against these ordinations. The only hope is with PSC of Thomas Pradhaman. He should find patenting these vestments from Syria. The Antiochian clad should try doing something like that instead of mudslanging at us.

Shaji K said...

Who will be Catholicos ?? ?? ? ?

Shaji K said...

This same happened before 100 years back , Marthoma ,malankaracatholic and we also , in future people will accept them

rajanthomas said...

By Consecrating Bishops and more Bishops will not increase faith in Christianity in India.These new Bishops or those wishing to be future bishops can they go and preach christianty in North India or non-believers?St.Paul Clearly stated that he was chosen to preach gospel to Gentiles.Even the priests they are not ready to serve the lord Christ in sufferings or ready serve Christ among non christians.
All they want is "Thoppiyum Kuppayavum" (power/position).All these consecrations for selfish interest of certain ' so called'individuals.they are mere 'show' or "Veshamkettal"These Bishops/priests are not in the Way Of Christ.They are not Harvesters of Christ.They are not feeding the sheeps but milking the sheeps for their own interest.Like politics in kerala/india,the clergy are behaving in orthodox church in kerala!

Avarachayan said...

എലിപ്പനി, ടെങ്ങിപ്പനി, പന്നിപ്പനി എന്നീ വൈറസുകള്‍ പോലെ ഇനി പുതിയ തരം വൈറസ് അറ്റാക്ക്‌ ആണോ ഇത് - തിരുമേനി വൈറസ്.

Joe G. said...

if the Orthodox Churches of Antioch and India regardless of See of Saint Peter or Saint Thomas are to crumble and fall, it is because our own "leaders" allowed it to happen. Who will take the initiative to show leadership and extend and accept the olive branch? I am disillusioned and can understand why more and more younger people are enamoured by the Catholic and charismatic churches despite those churches issues...

josachan said...

here in uk great antiochian sabha still using sirian orthodox church name.karanam sirian sabhakkalle address ulloo.nanamillatha oru koottamanu ithu.koode kure pavam aallkarum koode undu.avrakkonnum katha ariilla.we orthodox church done a big mistake for ordaining this gurgan.now bitting us back.we deserve this.uk il orthodox viswasikalanu kooduthalum gurgante koode ullathu.orthodox sabha onnum cheuinnilla.once all from this sabha will be greman patriarcheese...kashtam.no kannon for them.ivar ini indian jacobite and orthodox church kulamakkum.jagratha

josachan said...

i live in uk.utharam valanjal kazhukol ellam valaum.mudakkapettavurede oru koottamanu ithu.check their histories.ethra suspensions in their life.ethra sabhakalil members aairunnu iverallam.saapam kittathe ivaril ninnum akannu nilkuka.

man said...

for this only orthodox leadership has to be blamed ,actions has to be taken at the point it needs to be taken , now Athanasiose and Militius may be laughing at the plight of Catholicose designate and synod secretary

Jacob said...

As long as the primate have the authority to consecrate bishops, he will continue this exercise. A good income source for that church. Our church cannot do anything as we have no control over him. We did a mistake by allowing the consecration of the primate by our own bishops. At least they should have taken an irrevocable undertaking from him that his desigation does not have the authority to consecrate priests or bishops,and if he violates this, his position will autommatically be downgraded and his actions will stand nullified.

josachan said...

this antiochian sabha got all methrans.no common people.all are big guns.ha ha ha.gurgan and team fantasic.....

rajanthomas said...

Dear Jacob
if my understanding is correct,Mor.Sevarios Moosa Goorgan was consecrated as Primate of Independant SYriac orthodox church of Europe and he has no authority to cosecrate Bishops for church in Malankara/India. How Can he (Mor Sevarios)get mandatory from Milithios/Athanasios as they are not neither Malankara Metropolitan or Synod secrary of Episcopal Synod.
He is misusing his authority as Antiochean Heireacrhy used to play before in Malankara Church.Also it is a source of Income for Mor.Savarios as he need money to live in Germany.These people cannot do any evangalisation for church as they want be like self glorious priests Anaas/Kaiafa of Jesus time!

shaji said...

appan ammaye kalliyannam kazhichu oru makan unndayi. ye makan swantham ammayil ninnu makkale shristtikkunnu athannu orthodox sabayil ninnu pokan utheshikkunnavar cheyunnathu.

mathan said...

You can hear one day Fr. M.O John will become a Metran

Tharikada metrannmar

Chandichayan, Puthuppally said...

Nammude C G Achan Methranayathu Devalokamkar Arinjille? Perunnalinum Sweekaranathinum Poyittu Pathram Vayikkan samayam Kittunnillayirikkum.

Avarachayan said...

ജൂദാസ് തിരുമേനിയെ ഞാനൊന്നു വിളിച്ചാലോ. അങ്ങേരു കൂടോത്രക്കാരന്‍ വല്ലതും ആണോ.? Fr. M.O John തിരുമേനി ആയിട്ട് വന്നിട്ട് വേണം ആ കൈ ഒന്ന് മുത്താന്‍.

georgian said...

I know mr Babu(C G) when he was the typist at the delhi orthodox centre. For that matter he was efficient in typing replies to letters to gregorios thirumeni which nmber some time into hundreds when his grace comes back from foreign tours.I also remember his seeking blessings from thirumaeni at the road when thirumeni was to go abroad and he was to join seminary shortly. watching the scene from first floor the three semmassans' (now all are senior priests)comments have come true. He has dithched the church and have become 'para'to the entire church.I too had in my mind with such attitude, how he had been selected for seminary by thirumeni

എബി ജോന്‍ വന്‍നിലം said...

സി ജി മാത്യൂസ് അച്ചന്റെ പത്രം തദ്ദേവൂസ് കണ്ടാല്‍ അദ്ദേഹം മലങ്കര ഓര്‍ത്തഡോക്‌സ് സുറിയാനി സഭയുടെ വൈദീകനല്ലെന്നും അന്ത്യോഖ്യന്‍ സുറിയാനി ഓര്‍ത്തഡോക്‌സ് സഭയുടെ പ്രചാരകനാണെന്നും ബോധ്യമാകും. നേരത്തേതന്നെ മലങ്കര ഓര്‍ത്തഡോക്‌സ് സുറിയാനി സഭവിട്ടയാളാണദ്ദേഹം. മലങ്കര ഓര്‍ത്തഡോക്‌സ് സുറിയാനി സഭക്കാര്‍ ആകുലപ്പെടുന്നതെന്തിനു്?

Joshua said...

Ithokkey normal sambhavam alley !!Allayenkil charithrathil kettittilla thirumenymarey vote cheythu select cheyyuva, Daivam polum porukkilla. Vankida businesskarum, Famous Newspaperkarum nominate cheythal ethu kallu kudichu themmady ayi nadakkunnavanum thirumeny akum.Nalla prarthanayum, daivabhakthiyum ulla ethrayo yogyarara achanmar nammudey sabhayilundu.Inganey politics kanichal CG Mathews achaney blame cheythittu entha karyam. Kakshy oru agraham nivarthichu ..thats all.. Iniyenkilum ee politicsum, thammiladeem onnu nirtheetu manyamayittu prarthichu koodey???

Malankara Orthodox TV said...

Malayala Manorama, under instructions from Anti-Almayavedi group and top leadership of IOC, tactfully targets Methran Kakshi bishops Thomas Athanasius (Muvattupuzha) and Yuhanon Milithios (thrissur) who made Gurgan a bishop

Read the news ---
http://www.socmnet. org/News/ MM_June212010. jpg

From SOCM E Mail Forum

basil said...

Remember what Vattakkunnel Bava said about Antioch-relation .... That it was a kanda-kodali ( axe to our throat). Now the same holds true for this new axe to our throat : Mor Severios Moses Gurgan.
The news is that now His Grace Gurgan is planning to make a new Orthodox Church in India!!! Our church leaders should act immediately. Is there any way to block his passport or something like that? (I am aware that it is stupid to go to the court in this case. We were unable to prevent the Patriarch from coming to India, inspite of an exixting court verdict compelling H.H. to get the permission of Catholicos of the East if H.H. wants to visit India. There is probably no way to hold back Moses Gurgan now. :-(

WHY HAVE WE NOT HEARD ANYTHING FROM OUR LEADERS YET??? WHY ARE YOU KEEPING SILENCE, METROPOLITANS AND LAY-LEADERS????

Emmanuel said...

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Avarachayan said...

ഏയ്‌ ജോഷ്വ ചേട്ടോ , അങ്ങ് ഏതു സഭക്കാരനാണ്? ഏതു നാട്ടുകാരനാണ് ? മലങ്കര സഭയില്‍ ഉള്ള എല്ലാ അംഗങ്ങളെയും അച്ചന്മാരെയും ജോഷ്വ ചേട്ടന് അറിയാമോ.? ചരിത്രത്തില്‍ കേട്ടിട്ടില്ല എന്ന് പറഞ്ഞത് കൊണ്ട് ചോദിക്കുന്നതാണ് .ഓര്‍ത്തഡോക്‍സ്‌ സഭയിലെ ഏതെങ്കിലും തിരുമേനി കള്ളു കുടിയനോ തെമ്മാടിയോ ആണെന്ന് കാണിച്ചു തരാമോ? ഇത് പണ്ടത്തെ കാലമല്ല.

sam said...

Dear Emmanuel
Do you think the newly consecrated Bishops are going to do God's will?are they going to work for Jesus Christ?Jesus told that if anybody want to follow him "DENY HIMSELF"then follow Jesus.Jesus never had The Golden Staff and crown(thoppi) Golden Chain and Golden cross. Here these Bishops are Serving themselves/self interests and not Jesus.The Indian orthodox and Jacobite church are not going to be the loosers.The Loosers are are the ordinary laity as both side the laity are always misused and misguided by the church heireacrchy

marpapa said...

Rejoice in the Lord for we have a plethora of bishops in Malankara. Let all aspirant unmarried priests be elevated to the bishopric rank. That’s the best out -let for them. Why should we be a stumbling block in their way to heaven? Let us dream of a better tomorrow with only bishops serving in parishes, so that the parishioners would be more happy. Where there is a bishop, there is church. Is it not what the Eastern churches teach? We- achens- are just substitutes of bishops, destined to work for and in place of a bishop.(Vicar derives from the Latin Vicarius). May God bless every church in His own country- Kerala- with more bishops in future.

Malankara Orthodox TV said...

Fr. C. G. Mathew attended the Thengumtharayil Bishop's Consecration.
For Photos Visit
http://www.malankaraorthodox.tv/Mar%20Severios%20Moses%20Gurgan/FrCGMathew/index.html

Ingeru Pande Puthenkurisu Bavayude Bhakthan Thanne. 40 Lakhs Illathathukondu Gurgan Thirumeniyude Koode Koodiyathanu.

Thomas said...

Nammude Comments ee anugratha metranmarkh shakthi pakaruga annu,athukonde nammukh evidekondh nirthanam.devalaokam catholicakude oduvillathea kalpana vayikuga.
www.mosc.in click cheyiga

Thampy said...

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basil yeldo said...

സി.എം.തോമസ് (തോമസ് മാര്‍ ദീവന്നാസിയോസ് / തോമസ് പ്രഥമന്‍)കത്തനാര്‍ അന്തോക്യയില്‍ പോയി മെത്രാനായി എന്നു പറഞ്ഞു വന്നു മലങ്കര സഭയെ കീറി മുറിച്ചു ഒരു കഷണം തന്നാല്‍ മതിയെന്നു പറഞ്ഞു നടന്നു ശലോമോന്‍ രാജാവിന്റെ അടുത്ത് കുഞ്ഞിനെ മുറിച്ച് ഭാഗം വയ്ക്കാം എന്നു പറഞ്ഞ വ്യാജ അമ്മയെ പോലെ. പിന്നീട് ഇദ്ദേഹം കതോലിക്കയായി ഇപ്പോഴും പാത്രിയര്ക്കീസ് വിഭാഗത്തില്‍ ശ്രേഷ്ഠനായി നടക്കുന്നു. ഇതു പോലെ നാളെ ഒരു നാള്‍ മൂസാ ഗുര്‍ഗാന്‍ പാത്രിയര്‍ക്കീസ് ആണെന്നു പറഞ്ഞാല്‍ അംഗീകരിക്കുമോ ആവോ??? ദൈവ വിശ്വാസമില്ലാതെ അന്ത്യോക്ക്യന്‍ വിശ്വാസം സംരക്ഷിക്കുന്ന ഗുണ്ടാപട ഈ അന്ത്യോക്യ സഭയെ അംഗീകരിക്കുമോ???? പറയാ‍ന്‍ പറ്റില്ല സി.എം തോമസ് കത്തനാരെ ബാവയായി അംഗീകരിച്ചവര്‍ക്ക് അതും സാധിച്ചേക്കും.

Malankara Orthodox TV said...

ഉത്തരം മുട്ടുമ്പോള്‍ കൊഞ്ഞനം കാണിക്കുന്നതിന് പകരം തെറി എഴുതി വിടരുത്. സഭ്യമല്ലാതതവ പ്രസിദ്ധീകരിക്കുകയില്ല. - എഡിറ്റര്‍

Malankara Orthodox TV said...

Malankara Syriac Voice Report. Response from M TV

Mar Severios Moses Gurgan Delhiyil Vachu Methranmare Vazhicha Karyam Adyam Report Chaithathu M TV Alla. Malankara Syriac Voicum SOCM E Mail Foravum Aanu. Athinu Seshamanu M TV News Koduthathu. Keralathile News Paperukalkku Ayakkunna Koottathil M TV kkum Adheham Photoyum Newsum Ayakkarundu. Orthodox Sabhangangal Ariyenda Vartha Aayathukondu Njangal Athu Kodukkunnu Ennu Mathram.

Orthodox Church Synod Angeekarichathinu Sesham Keralathil Ethiya Mar Severiosine M TV Team Kanukayum Interview Nadathukayum Chaithirunnu. Aa Photokal Publish Cheyyan Sanmanasu Kanichathinu Syriac Voice Sitinu Nandy.

Utharam Muttumpol M TV teaminte Photo Publish Chaithittu Enthu Karyam!!!

Avarachayan said...

MTV TEAM ന്റെ ഫോട്ടോസ് പബ്ലിഷ് ചെയ്തതിനു പുത്തെന്കുരിശുകാര്‍ കാശ് മേടിക്കാന്‍ വന്നെന്നിരിക്കും.

Philip said...

There is no point in criticizing Mar Militios and Mar Athanasos regarding the ordination of Gurgon. If you genuinely look at the chronology of events, one can give them the benefit of doubt that they have been fallen into the trap of “the plum colored skin” from Arabia. Moreover, if you look at the history of events in Malankara, similar things have happened in the past and people like Mar Militios and Mar Athanasos are made scapegoat. So let us no put unnecessary pressure to crucify them, when their intention was genuine.
What was the intention of the person who invented nuclear energy? Definitely not to make nuclear bomb. Unfortunately gurgon turned out to be one. So let us pray and hope common sense prevails in him. Unfortunately we can’t diffuse him as Christ lives in us. He should be more interested in looking after his people in Germany and around for which he pleaded to make him a Bishop. Now see what he is doing.
We give alms to beggars in the towns in Kerala knowingly or unknowingly that majority of them are part of an organized Mafia. That is how things are happening unfortunately in our home land.
There is no point on scoring scores at people and destroying the church. Afterall the Church belongs to God. And whoever tries to destabilize it will get destroyed.
Let us abide by the Kalpana of His Holiness regarding Gurgon and his accomplices.

Shelley John said...

Bavayude Perilulla Kalpanayil Gurgan Thirumeniye "enna Aal", "Ayal" Ennokkeyanu Vilichirikkunnathu. Niyuktha Bavayude kunnamkulam Bhashayano Aprem Thirumeniyude Samskritha bhashayano Ithennu Nischayamilla.

Aprem Thirumeny Koottukar Thanna "Sabdha Tharavaly" Randu Neram Vayichu Padikkunnathu Arogyathinu Nallathanu.

Ithilum Samskaram Puthenkurisukarude Viswasa Samrakshakanundu Ennu Choondikkanikkatte.

Avarachayan said...

ഹലോ ഷെല്ലി , " കേരളം " അതിര്‍ത്തി ഇവിടം മുതല്‍ ഇവിടം വരെയെന്നു നമ്മള്‍ക്ക് അറിയാമല്ലോ. ഒരു കോട്ടയം ജില്ലയോ പതനം തിട്ട ജില്ലയോ മാത്രമല്ല കേരളം. ഇനി കാസര്‍ഗോഡ്‌ മുതല്‍ ഒന്ന് നടന്നു പാരസ്സാല വരെ പോയി നോക്കിക്കേ. ഒരേ കാര്യത്തിന് ഏതെല്ലാം വിധത്തില്‍ സംസാരിക്കാം എന്ന് മനസ്സിലാകും. പിന്നെ കാസര്‍ഗോഡ് ജില്ലയിലും ഓര്‍ത്തഡോക്‍സ്‌ വിശ്വാസികള്‍ ഉണ്ട്, തിരുവനന്തപുരം ജില്ലയിലുമുണ്ട്. അത് കൊണ്ട് ഭാഷ പ്രയോഗം വിട്ടു കള.

Avarachayan said...

പുതെന്‍ കുരിശു കാര്‍ എന്ത് കണ്ടിട്ടാണോ ജൂദാസ് തിരുമേനിയെയും, ഗുര്ഗന്‍ തിരുമേനിയെയും ചീത്ത പറയുന്നത് ? ഒരു വിധത്തില്‍ അവര്‍ക്ക് മെത്രാന്‍ പട്ടം കിട്ടിയെന്നു കാണിക്കാന്‍ ഫോട്ടോസ് എങ്ങിലുമുണ്ട്. ഫാഷന്‍ പരേട്‌ ആണെങ്കിലും. തോമസ്‌ പ്രഥമന്‍ എങ്ങിനെ ആണ് മെത്രാന്‍ ആയതു.? ഒരു വിധത്തില്‍ മലങ്കര സഭക്ക് ഇവരെല്ലാം ഒരുപോലെ. നേരെ ചൊവ്വേ മെത്രാന്‍ ആകാന്‍ കഴിയാത്തത് കൊണ്ട് പാത്തു പതുങ്ങി പോയി കുപ്പായം മേടിച്ചു. യാക്കോബായ മക്കള്‍ പറ്റുമെങ്ങില്‍ തോമസ്‌ പ്രഥമന്‍ മെത്രാന്‍ പട്ടം മേടിക്കുന്ന photo പ്രസിദ്ധീകരിക്കണം. അല്ലെങ്കില്‍ വേണ്ട. അദ്ധേഹത്തിന്റെ പാസ്പോര്‍ട്ട്‌ കോപ്പി ഒന്ന് പ്രസിദ്ധീകരിക്കണം. മനസ്സിലാക്കാമല്ലോ സിറിയയില്‍ പോകുക എങ്കിലും ചെയ്തിട്ടുണ്ടോ അക്കാലത്തു എന്ന്. കന്യാകുമാരി മുനന്ബില്‍ നിന്ന് ആണ്ടെ കാണുന്നതാണ് സിറിയ എന്ന് ആരെങ്കിലും പറഞ്ഞതാണോ എന്ന് അറിയണ്ടേ. ഇത് ഒരു സാധാരണക്കാരന്റെ സംശയം മാത്രം . വിശ്വാസ സംരക്ഷകര്‍ പിണങ്ങേണ്ട.

Philip said...

Avarachaya,
Veruttallaye. Venemengil Vishwasamrakshakan Elias III, Thomachante ammayude munmbil 3 pravisham prathyashkapeeta photo varay kondu kanikkum. Verutheyenthinnu vadi koduthadivangunnu?

Avarachayan said...

അത് കൊണ്ടായിരിക്കും പാവം അമ്മച്ചിമാര്‍ അദ്ദേഹം തോമസ്‌ ചേട്ടനായിരിക്കുമ്പോള്‍ തന്നെ തൊട്ടു കുരിശു വരച്ചിരുന്നത്.

reji_pune said...

Guys please accept we made mistake. I never blame to our both the thirumani because when we think their idea and plan i am not able to blame them. They thought this will help to our saba. (What i am understanding) that is why our saba also accepted. Please think about now forget about the past. Let any thirumani come and go and form any type of churches or saba or do whatever. Why we are bothered?? we are having strong fatith in our saba and our thirumani. People who want to go anywhere let them go. See these people are very dangerious why we need them in our church.

george cherian said...

Mar Severios Moosa Gurgan is acting like a politician to take advantage of our Kerala churches. Please don't into his trap to degrade our churches. He may be attracted to few because of his white skin. The Indian government should deny him visa to enter India again because he is creating problems in Kerala Christian groups. He is also taking money away from India. He should not be considered as a religious leader. Well, anything goes in India!. This guy knows the weakness of Indians and he is taking advantage of our generosity.

ANIL P DANIEL said...

Who consecrated the Ramban Gurgan as the metropolitan ???????. What step take our synod against the bishops Athanesiuos & Militheous?????.
Mar Severios Moosa Gurgan is acting like a politician to take advantage of our Kerala churches. Please don't into his trap to degrade our churches. He may be attracted to few because of his white skin. The Indian government should deny him visa to enter India again because he is creating problems in Kerala Christian groups. He is also taking money away from India. He should not be considered as a religious leader. Well, anything goes in India!. This guy knows the weakness of Indians and he is taking advantage of our generosity.

Varghese said...

Some Jews who went around driving out evil spirits tried to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who were demon-possessed. They would say, "In the name of Jesus, whom Paul preaches, I command you to come out." Seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, were doing this. (One day) the evil spirit answered them, "Jesus I know, and I know about Paul, but who are you?" Then the man who had the evil spirit jumped on them and overpowered them all. He gave them such a beating that they ran out of the house naked and bleeding